Chasses E-450 Ford Filled fuel tank but could get no recite at fuel pump...!!! attendant tells me had 3 inches of rain day before and pumps were so wet recite machine not working in pumps. Drive about 5 miles Engine check light comes on!!! Stop check fuel cap to see if loose. does not help. Check fluid levels everything OK. Drive a short distance everything OK. Guys tells me fault code will go off after three engine starts if nothing wrong.Code still on a couple days later pull into garage to get code read. Folks I got a tank of bad fuel. Put New filter in and Motor Home runs great.My question? One guy tells me i need to drop tank and put in new pump. Another mechanic says pump ok if code light not coming on because if pump damaged it would not pump correct pressure and code light would show.Have any of you run into this problem??? I have driven about 1200 miles sense changing filter and have not had a problem or trouble light.

Sounds like all the heavy rain put water into their fuel storage tanks.Don't know about your fuel pump, but you should have gotten a receipt for your fuel from the attendant. That's what I do when the receipt printer at the pump is not working. Even if you didn't get a receipt at all, a record of it will show up on your credit card statement. If you paid cash, you're out of luck as far as having a record of your fuel purchase.

I have two reasons for always getting a receipt: (1) as a Virginia resident, I can get a rebate on fuel taxes paid on fuel bought in Virginia; and (2) if I ever get a tank of bad fuel, I want to be able to PROVE who is going to be paying for the damage. HPFP, a full set of injectors, bits & pieces plus labor on my TV could run upwards of $10,000. Dunno what they'd run on your rig, but unless you want to pay it all yourself, get a receipt.I've never had to fight with an attendant to get one, btw.

naturist wrote:I have two reasons for always getting a receipt: (1) as a Virginia resident, I can get a rebate on fuel taxes paid on fuel bought in Virginia; and (2) if I ever get a tank of bad fuel, I want to be able to PROVE who is going to be paying for the damage. HPFP, a full set of injectors, bits & pieces plus labor on my TV could run upwards of $10,000. Dunno what they'd run on your rig, but unless you want to pay it all yourself, get a receipt.I've never had to fight with an attendant to get one, btw.tell me more about rebate on fuel taxes. :)bumpy

My question? One guy tells me i need to drop tank and put in new pump. Another mechanic says pump ok if code light not coming on because if pump damaged it would not pump correct pressure and code light would show.Buy a fuel pressure gauge and see what your pump is really doing. Just a gauge with a hose and a valve that screws onto a valve in your fuel rail. If within spec's you're good to go. Pumps can fail anytime but replacing one because of what might happen is like pulling a tooth because it might go bad someday. Gas station has big problem if rain leaks into their tanks. That would also mean gas could leak out during dry season.Good idea carrying a spare filter.

naturist wrote:I have two reasons for always getting a receipt: (1) as a Virginia resident, I can get a rebate on fuel taxes paid on fuel bought in Virginia; and (2) if I ever get a tank of bad fuel, I want to be able to PROVE who is going to be paying for the damage. HPFP, a full set of injectors, bits & pieces plus labor on my TV could run upwards of $10,000. Dunno what they'd run on your rig, but unless you want to pay it all yourself, get a receipt.I've never had to fight with an attendant to get one, btw.Actually, it cost over $11K on my truck when I poisoned it with DEF. The repairs are the same.

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Toot_Mc
Explorer
Jul 24, 2015
Im ready to go just as is but I will have a spare fuel filter to use if i get another check engine code.

I am going to check pressure of fuel rail and see if it is in spec. which I am sure it is.

I was told it can be checked with a tire gage because there is a Schrader valve on fuel rail. I will have to look and make sure that is correct. I was told that is the were jet cleaner is injected. so i will look and see.
GMandJM
Explorer
Jul 24, 2015
Bumpyroad wrote:
naturist wrote:
I have two reasons for always getting a receipt: (1) as a Virginia resident, I can get a rebate on fuel taxes paid on fuel bought in Virginia...

tell me more about rebate on fuel taxes. :)
bumpy

This ?
Bumpyroad
Explorer
Jul 24, 2015
GMandJM wrote:
Bumpyroad wrote:
naturist wrote:
I have two reasons for always getting a receipt: (1) as a Virginia resident, I can get a rebate on fuel taxes paid on fuel bought in Virginia...

tell me more about rebate on fuel taxes. :)
bumpy

This ?

that seems like the standard non-road use refunds. guess I have been missing my rebate on the 5 gallons of gas I burn in my boat each year. :)
bumpy
mlts22
Explorer
Jul 26, 2015
I prefer the refund system as opposed to the fuel dye. Use even just a few drops of the wrong fuel, and it isn't pretty.
JaxDad
Explorer III
Jul 26, 2015
naturist wrote:
I have two reasons for always getting a receipt: (1) as a Virginia resident, I can get a rebate on fuel taxes paid on fuel bought in Virginia.......

Thats a dicey proposition that really doesn't accomplish anything and exposes you to hefty fines.

Yes, a resident of almost any State can file for a rebate on fuel bought out of State and then imported into their home State.

The problem is two-fold;

First and foremost in order to keep it all legal getting the refund from a purchase of 50 gal. of fuel bought in say North Carolina, you would then also have to then PAY the tax on 50 gal. Of fuel in Virginia.

Secondly, you run the risk of some beaurecrat catching on to the fact your putting the fuel in your vehicle tank and driving out of the State (as opposed to a bulk tank) and that you're actually applying for a refund on some of the fuel you're burning IN State on your way back out.
klutchdust
Explorer II
Jul 26, 2015
I would be interested in hearing from someone who actually was able to prove their fuel was bad and their repairs were paid for by the station.

Having been involved in litigations I find that there are more urban legends out there than truth. Now we have had diesel fuel added to some of the

trucks in our fleet and we ran the fuel out and kept diluting it and other than being a bit smoky it dissipated without any harm to the service

trucks.
Toot_Mc
Explorer
Jul 27, 2015
Klutchdust:

In Texas we can file a complaint (which I have done) with the department of agriculture and the tanks at the station in question will be inspected for water and low octane fuel.

I will probably never see any compensation for my misfortune But i will have the satisfaction that future consumers will be more or less protected.
klutchdust
Explorer II
Jul 27, 2015
Toot Mc wrote:
Klutchdust:

In Texas we can file a complaint (which I have done) with the department of agriculture and the tanks at the station in question will be inspected for water and low octane fuel.

I will probably never see any compensation for my misfortune But i will have the satisfaction that future consumers will be more or less protected.

I need to look into that in my state.

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