Banks cold air intake

timmac wrote:

timmac wrote:
Anyone tell me the stock V-10 exhaust manifold is just as good as the Banks header system, check out this pic and than tell me

Why haven't the naysayers have anything to say about this pic, what is better, stock or Banks ??


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Well, that depends on what you mean by "better." If you mean low cost reliable, durable, low maintenance, emission compliant exhaust system, clearly it WOULDN'T be the Banks system. Ford/Chevrolet doesn't think so either otherwise the vehicle would come that way from the factory.

Currently, OE's have to certify that their vehicle emissions systems will comply with EPA/CARB standards under the regulations that they certified it would. That means it must meet new vehicle emissions standards for 8 years and/or 80,000 miles, which ever comes first. If it doesn't, then they are on the hook to fix it (on their time/dime) until it does. (times however many units are in the field)

With the Banks system, the distance and the exposed surface area between the exhaust ports and the catalytic converter (the headers) is exponentially greater that the stock system. Think back to your college level classes on fluid dynamics, physics, heat transfer, chemistry, thermal expansion, strength of materials, combustion theory etc. (Oh that's right, I forgot, you never took those classes, . . . what a surprise) In your race car example above, that means that, under some operating conditions, the catalytic converter may drop below its light off temperature and it may not operate efficiently when below its required operating temperature range so that the vehicle may not comply with it's emissions limits. For you, that's not an issue. For OE's it is. Google "Volkswagen emissions scandal" if you don't think so.

I don't care if you want to tack all that race car stuff on your vehicle. That's up to you. Take a look in the pits at any race. What do you see? Hint: People working on their vehicles. That could be you!

Clearly, you prefer to get your engineering degree from the school of hard knocks with a minor in marketing and advertising.

That's where you take the test first, gain experience second, and learn your lesson last.

Me, I took the traditional route where I learned the lessons first, gained experience next, then took the test last.

Chum lee

timmac wrote:

timmac wrote:
Anyone tell me the stock V-10 exhaust manifold is just as good as the Banks header system, check out this pic and than tell me

Why haven't the naysayers have anything to say about this pic, what is better, stock or Banks ??


:B

crickets:B

ppine wrote:
If you are talking about spark plugs, you bought the wrong truck.
Air intake upgrade absolutely will pay for itself.
So will a new exhaust.

Should I have got a truck with glow plugs? lol
You can't get the 8.1 and Allison trans package anymore
2001 2500HD. Fantastic truck. I already have the air intake and Gibson exhaust. Truck didn't have iridium plugs when I changed them at 60k miles. Maybe the previous owner changed them?
The wires and plugs made a noticeable difference

babock wrote:
LOL...changing new plugs and plug wires to something aftermarke thinking that is going to help power!

P.T Barnum would be smiling!

It actually does. As the wires age, they develop increasing resistance to electricity and become more prone to misfire and a weaker spark. So you will not get more power, but you will get more stable rated power.

If you are talking about spark plugs, you bought the wrong truck.
Air intake upgrade absolutely will pay for itself.
So will a new exhaust.

Read my post
I said difference, not power
Iridium plugs in my truck made a difference and smoothed out the idle and it's a known fix for the 8.1.
I'm replacing the wires since they're known to burn.
If it makes a difference in the way it runs then it's a bonus
Both need to be done at some time so it's all good.
You've never replaced plugs and wires?

LOL...changing new plugs and plug wires to something aftermarke thinking that is going to help power!

P.T Barnum would be smiling!

timmac wrote:

T18skyguy wrote:
Nobody has mentioned one of the best gear train mods you can get. Double your available gears with a Gear Vendors overdrive
That is money well spent. If you get the Banks, you need to torque the bolts correctly, then re-torque again after a couple trips. There is no gasket used or needed on the headers.

Gear Vendors will not work on the new 5 or 6 speed torque shift Ford trans, I did check it out, not sure if it also works on the Allison as well, I suspect as more gears are added to the new transmissions Gear Vendors wont be selling that product anymore.

I wondered that myself. That unit was a godsend in the days of the 3 speed and 4 speed transmissions. They sell plenty of them for dragsters and all kind of applications. They'll be in business, but less for Ford and Chevy stuff.

I ordered the plug wires
Motor doesn't have many miles but I like to be safe than sorry
I'll try them first to see what difference they might make before I do the flash
I have the same motor and trans in my truck and i replaced the wires a few years ago along with the plugs even though they're supposed to last 100k miles

T18skyguy wrote:
Nobody has mentioned one of the best gear train mods you can get. Double your available gears with a Gear Vendors overdrive
That is money well spent. If you get the Banks, you need to torque the bolts correctly, then re-torque again after a couple trips. There is no gasket used or needed on the headers.

Gear Vendors will not work on the new 5 or 6 speed torque shift Ford trans, I did check it out, not sure if it also works on the Allison as well, I suspect as more gears are added to the new transmissions Gear Vendors wont be selling that product anymore.