Class A with tag axle - beware of $1000. fine in AZ!

Francesca Knowles wrote:

Rollnhome wrote:
With a bit more research I find that 10Ponies the gentleman that received the ticket for fueling at the wrong pump was filling his "toterhome". Toterhomes are not registered as Recreational Vehicles in Arizona; Toterhomes are registered as trucks. I was wondering why they had to "go over his paperwork".
Therefore according to AZ he was filling his three axle truck at the light class pump.
Now I ask, can anyone give an example of an RV registered mh being cited at the light class pumps....that is other than I know a guy whose uncles brother met a guy in a bar.

I can't stand it...this whole discussion including and especially the threadtitle that started it all is BASED ON SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!! That being of course the (now revealed to be fictional) premise that some poor owner of a fifty thousand pound 200k class A was ticketed for refusing to pay an extra eight cents at the pumps.

Well, brace yerselves...when that toterhome fella goes to Court he'll likely be using the argument that if he has to pay, so do three axle diesel Class As. And he's right! Thing is...if he wins that argument and gets off the hook, it seems likely to me that Arizona's response is going to be to simply shut down any such "loophole" in the next legislative session.

This due at least in part to the indignant letters from Class A owners on the subject. Who knew they were so numerous on Arizona's roads?

Congratulations- y'all may have just created a "problem" for yourselves that didn't even exist! :S

I believe if you look, you will see a second person who was cited. I believe he was from Texas.

Rollnhome wrote:
Francesca, got me too. I thought he miss spelled it. Never heard of a "Toterhome".
Now I know:)

As do we all...it's a vehicle in which a whole bunch of Class A diesel owners can be "taken for a ride"! ;)

Francesca, got me too. I thought he miss spelled it. Never heard of a "Toterhome".
Now I know:)

Rollnhome wrote:
10ponies
19 Sep 2014
Yesterday I was fueling my toterhome at the Quick Trip truck stop on 51 Ave and I-10 in Phoenix. I was at the pumps marked "autos". I went into put down my card and the attendant told me I was at the wrong pump. I told her I am a registered RV. She said OK and off I went and started fueling.

:B

Give it up, Rollnhome- yer obviously the only person here that can actually READ, and I include myself in the illiterate group.

This is really one for the books...the guy didn't lie about what he had. But he DID go on to say that he "saw other RV's pulled over", clearly intending everyone to presume he meant class A's. Nice touch! Especially since it's pretty clear that most would either miss the 'toterhome' part or not understand what one is.
Result:

Lots of indignant letters-to-regulators from Class A owners. Many from out-of-Staters, not exactly the constituency that elected types owe their careers to. And now the regulators are scratching their heads goin' "those things weigh HOW MUCH??? Well, you can betcher life that they ought to pay the uptax that other hyperheavy vehicles are made to pay. We owe that to The Citizens of Arizona, 99% of whom drive vehicles that weigh 10,000 pounds or less and do much less damage to the roads".

Holding my breath waiting to see if some local paper gets ahold of this one. Can't wait for the reaction from John Q. Average Arizonian!

10ponies
19 Sep 2014
Yesterday I was fueling my toterhome at the Quick Trip truck stop on 51 Ave and I-10 in Phoenix. I was at the pumps marked "autos". I went into put down my card and the attendant told me I was at the wrong pump. I told her I am a registered RV. She said OK and off I went and started fueling.

No you're not ready it correctly. :) Phrases and words used in laws will have specific legal meanings. A non-profit company or organization is a specific legal entity. All charities are non-profits, but not all non-profits are charities. The Boy Scouts are a non-profit so if they are using trucks to transport stuff around they are exempt from the extra tax.

I think Lbligh's article hit the nail right on the head. And the way I understand it, this tax is for commercial vehicles. Vehicles that are being used for making money. Vehicles that are carrying passengers to make money would be buses, not motor homes, unless you are using your coach as a business, THEN it would fall into the taxation created by this state.

I think if you read Lbligh's article, it is very explicit.

msmith1199 wrote:

jlabr2 wrote:


Ok guys, I hope to shed some more light here. Since I live in AZ I just went out and took a pic of the sticker on the pump where I usually fill my coach. As you can see the list of vehicles that are exempt are school buses, government and non-profit. I think that we can all agree that all of us here are non-profit. Case closed??

I'm not a registered non-profit organization. Are you saying you are and you have somehow registered your motorhome in this non-profit organization? Or are you just pulling our leg?

I guess I question if you have to be registered. All I am saying is that I do not use my coach for income producing, so it is non-profit and therefor exempt. Am I not reading this correctly?

msmith1199 wrote:

Rollnhome wrote:
With a bit more research I find that 10Ponies the gentleman that received the ticket for fueling at the wrong pump was filling his "toterhome". Toterhomes are not registered as Recreational Vehicles in Arizona; Toterhomes are registered as trucks. I was wondering why they had to "go over his paperwork".
Therefore according to AZ he was filling his three axle truck at the light class pump.
Now I ask, can anyone give an example of an RV registered mh being cited at the light class pumps....that is other than I know a guy whose uncles brother met a guy in a bar.

That's interesting. I never heard of a Toterhome. But I read what was posted and he said Motorhome and he said he saw three other motorhomes stopped too. Were those all Toterhomes too? Whatever that is?

Okay, I looked up Toterhome. Basically a semi-truck turned into a motorhome. That may explain it, but I'd still make the argument is doesn't fit any of the definitions. The truck definition required the vehicle to be designed for cargo carrying. If you turn a semi-truck into a motorhome isn't no longer a cargo carrying vehicle, unless maybe it's a toy hauler?

jlabr2 wrote:


Ok guys, I hope to shed some more light here. Since I live in AZ I just went out and took a pic of the sticker on the pump where I usually fill my coach. As you can see the list of vehicles that are exempt are school buses, government and non-profit. I think that we can all agree that all of us here are non-profit. Case closed??

I'm not a registered non-profit organization. Are you saying you are and you have somehow registered your motorhome in this non-profit organization? Or are you just pulling our leg?