I was an IDIOT for buying a Thor Palazzo!!!

peaches&cream wrote:
As each of you know, unless OP paid cash for unit, he is SOL. Camping World will park it on the back lot where it will depreciate even more while OP gets to make the payments. OP can hire a Attorney which will take more money and time. Everything continues waiting on a settlement, which can take years. Camping World and Thor's probably have deeper pockets than OP. Getting a settlement which is reasonable in OP eye's will not happen. Op has 2 options: 1. Bankrupt against lienholder if unit is financed and forget about it. 2. Take unit, get it fixed as best possible and sell it for what you can get (pay the difference owed to lienholder to protect credit). Making Camping World or Thor do anything they do not want to do is impossible. Everyone here know's MH depreciate 30% as they leave the lot. All I can say is, I'm glad it's not me.

Another possibility: park it in front of his house with a 20' lemon graphic on it directing viewers to a website detailing the shoddy build quality and nonexistent customer service he got from Thor.

phnguyk wrote:

Executive wrote:

93mastercraft wrote:
I gave camping world my options I'd like to see happen that would make us happy. One, another Palazzo factory direct with all the kinks worked out with a 6 to 10 year warranty and payment for time without unit thus far. (to be determined) but we are going on 2-3 months payments at this point. Two, find us another manufacturer. We already suggested a Fleetwood Excursion 33D optioned out exactly like the Palazzo. This unit is very comparable in price to a Palazzo. Maybe a little more. But with the issues we have been through already, the difference in the price would make us happy and with another manufacturer I will not expect compensation for all the troubles we have been through. I feel like these options are very reasonable.

The biggest difference between a Thor and a Fleetwood is, Fleetwood does not use the Schwintek motors and gears.

Being "higher up on the food chain" for many years, IMHO, what you're asking for is a no deal. "Good Will" can only be pushed so far and your demands are too far over the top.

I know when you buy a new product, expectations are great. Your "issue" is with the mfg not the seller. I don't see Thor buying you a Fleetwood product, and no mfg is going to give out a 10 yr warranty...any "deal" will contain a finality clause.

Just my 2 cents, but based on my experience working in management for a company much much larger than Thor.....Dennis

x2, I was feeling for the op, but after seeing his demands, not so much anymore. Sorry.

Yes...it's HORRIBLY unreasonable to expect that after dropping a fortune on a new motorhome, he be able to USE IT AS INTENDED!

Unless Marcus comes through with a check for the ENTIRE cost of the lemon, the OP needs to get a lawyer. It's that simple.

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mastercraft93,

I too have felt your pain!
As been mentioned, you need legal assistance to resolve this problem.
It's apparent that you have an attorney in North Carolina.
Thor's headquarters are in Elkhart, IN. You will need an attorney licensed in the state of Indiana. I have personally been down this same path with Gulfstream, Inc. If you send me a PM I will send you the info of the Indiana attorney I used who is one of the "Top" Class Action attorneys in Indiana. He was very successful in my case and friends that I have referred to him in the past. When the "Discovery" subpoenas start showing up at their headquarters they'll be begging you to settle.

Pete

Stop posting ....your digging a hole! 3 months without a coach in the shop is unfortunately not unusual . You are angry and asking for things you won't get -and by doing so making your chances of resolution poor This is a forum seen by very FEW in the big scheme of things CW and Thor have been told by you in so many words no matter what you'll never darken there door and the few here agreeing with you are a drop in the bucket ther have no more incentive to help you Also . You must let CW and Thor try to resolve this while you make payments or you'll not be buying anything on credit no mater how sympathetic your lender is
Your attny if you had one would tell you to stop now you should show them this thread to protect yourself For that matter this thread shoud be closed .. Good luck

THREE WORDS GET - AN - ATTORNEY

They will not take you seriously. You are being played. They are hoping you will just give up, (which is exactly what you are doing) DON'T GIVE UP!!

You have to fight the fight. You are in the right. We all know that.
Once they see an attorney is involved, rather than an emotional owner, things will start to happen.

olfarmer wrote:
I certainly would not default on the loan. It will ruin your credit and the loan company will repossess the motorhome and sell it for what ever they can get for it, which will be way less than you paid for it, then they will come after you for the balance between the loan and what they get for it. You need a good lawyer to tell you the best options that you have. Sorry for your problems but don't make them worse.
JMO,
Ed

So... I guess what everyone is saying is I keep paying from something that is not in my possession and something that is not fixed. I've already made one payment. Getting ready to make another one. Zero ownership. Yeah, I get it. This is America.

Since some of you are following this tread pretty closely. I have not said or done anything bad about any company or wanting to damage any ones reputation. I have only told you things about my situation and I how I plan on dealing with it. If you want to see a gentleman who truly had something against Thor, just watch these videos. Please note...THIS IS NOT ME.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bro2esodyH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0I2v94WZno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSOlGK83Mtw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksFVWYhqgZY&feature=c4-overview&list=UUYaIMF4dX_CRuc02qPqUlnA

Executive wrote:

Goldencrazy wrote:
I agree you should not suffer economic harm. You should get your money back and they get the lemon. You will have no chance at damages for a bad deal unless you can prove something other than loss of recreation. I would sue to get my money back and ask for fees. You are angry and need advice from a professional to help you through this. Defaulting is a bad idea especially when I think there are better deals available.

Goldencrazy wrote:
Oh yes and keep writing. You are doing a huge amount of damage to both Thor and CW. I had considered that exact coach and not a chance now.

Yeah...you're on CW's site and doing a huge amount of damage to them...good idea...that way if you sue, especially if you aren't successful, they can go after you for damages...Great idea..:S

Since this post is now going on 14 pages, I would scan my posts VERY carefully and make sure EVERYTHING is FACTUAL and not puffed...that could come back and bite you in the butt pretty quickly.

A loan default could result in a deficiency judgment against you. Also, since YOU own the coach, leaving it at CW might be a mistake as they could charge you for storage fees and/or have it towed to a separate storage facility and those charges would accrue.

IMHO, you should sit down and calmly discuss your situation with a competent attorney to decide what to do in the future. Again, IMHO that attorney's first advice will be to cease posting in this and any other forum regarding the issue. You're in a no win situation right now and that's truly unfortunate. It's easy for us to side with you and say Thor builds a piece of junk, you should be made whole, etc. etc., but it's not our money and not our situation. We cannot make an intelligent decision as to what you should or should not do. Most of the suggestions on here are based on sympathy for the situation you're in. Those sympathies will mean little in a court of law. You have a written contract to purchase the coach. All that's important is what's written in that contract. You purchased a coach with certain expectations. Based on your statements, those expectations were not met. We could debate this until the cows come home but I can't see a useful purpose in that. Best of luck to you and I wish you a positive outcome to a really unfortunate situation.....Dennis

I don't have a motor home in my possession because it is not fixed. They have not told me it is ready to be picked up. I collected my possessions because I don't want anything to get broken or stolen. I did not write that about harming any company. Please don't emply I said that, I do not appreciate that. I have heard camping world tell me worse things that would happen if they stop selling Thor's. A loan default will not result in a deficiency on my part. I have already made my intentions very clear to the lean holder and they already have all my paper work as to the situation. If anything my lean holder will have more power to deal with Thor than I do if they choose to do so. I have already talked to a lawyer. He told me the same thing that CW has told me. We have to let Thor follow through with the warranty work.

Has it occurred to you that if I had my Palazzo back I would not be spending time posting here? I'm sure I'd be camping and enjoying my ride. Give me a break!

I certainly would not default on the loan. It will ruin your credit and the loan company will repossess the motorhome and sell it for what ever they can get for it, which will be way less than you paid for it, then they will come after you for the balance between the loan and what they get for it. You need a good lawyer to tell you the best options that you have. Sorry for your problems but don't make them worse.
JMO,
Ed