leveling and slide out

campingman55 wrote:
yes we have hwh625 with air bags the reason iam asking is the right rear jack is real slow coming up and the springs have been replaced

Don't be too alarmed at that. About 95% of the jacks retract slow, especially the rear ones. Some will be a bit faster and some, well they take their time. You see, there's a ton of resistance that, that fluid encounters when traveling back to the reservoir, all the way from the rear of the coach. There's bends, kinks (sometimes), size of hose, and more that will restrict the flow of that fluid back to it's home. And, the temp has to do with it too. The colder it is outside, the thicker that hydraulic fluid is and, the slower it will travel in the line back to camp.

When the pump is running, that's a serious amount of pressure developed and, it has no choice but, to "scram" to the jack and do it's job of making the jack work. But, on the reverse side, all that's pushing that fluid back home are those springs. You could put FOUR return springs on each jack and it would only be marginally faster in retracting them. As long as they DO retract, you're pretty good to go. Some say that cleaning them and lubing them with things like ATF trans fluid etc. will aid in slow retraction. That's an experiment that I've not tried.

Now, it has been stated that, there is a "time table" of which those jacks are supposed to operate at. That is to say, they're suppose to fully retract in a certain amount of time. I'd have to do some digging to find it but, it's out there somewhere. But, again, as long as they do retract, you're go to go. It will just take some time.
Scott

J-Rooster wrote:

RayChez wrote:
coolcity, You are suppose to level first, then you put the slides out. Common sense will tell you that. If you have any mechanical know how, you will know right away that you set up your platform first, then you can put the slides out without putting any twist on the frame of the coach.

X-2, Ray is correct level first with jacks down!

Not with a Roadmaster chassis.......slides out, dump air, then level. You reverse the procedures when leaving. If you do not follow that procedure, you will eventually crack a windshield and bind a slide.

RayChez wrote:
coolcity, You are suppose to level first, then you put the slides out. Common sense will tell you that. If you have any mechanical know how, you will know right away that you set up your platform first, then you can put the slides out without putting any twist on the frame of the coach.

X-2, Ray is correct level first with jacks down!

yes we have hwh625 with air bags the reason iam asking is the right rear jack is real slow coming up and the springs have been replaced

campingman55,
Your '05 Vectra is basically a sister ship to our '04 Horizon. I can only assume but, I won't take for granted that you have the HWH Auto leveling, 625 system. And, if it actually is the HWH 625 system, then it can be automatic or manual.

Let's say it's the 625 system and, you want to use it the automatic way. You can do it two different, but easy ways. One with the engine running and the other, without. In either case, the system will automatically "dump" the air in the bags and then, it will deploy the jacks, bringing down the appropriate ones in the order needed for accurate leveling.

Once that's done, the system will automatically shut down and, then, and only then, do you maneuver your slides out. You see, you need a stable platform that's well supported for the slides. And on the opposite end, when picking up and getting ready to depart, you retract the slides FIRST, and then, when you're all ready to head out, you start your engine, and then turn on the HWH panel and hit "Store". The bags will begin to inflate and, the jacks will all retract at the same time and, when all the "red" blinking lights are out on that panel, thats an indication that your jacks are up and ready for travel.

And, by the way, when that system is ready for travel, it turns on the "Travel" mode light. You're ready to head out.

One more thing and it's important. If your slide and jack system IS HWH, DO NOT EXTEND THE SLIDE(S) HALF WAY AND THEN RETRACT THEM!!!!! If you're going to extend any slide, extend it ALL THE WAY, then retract it. And, if you're going to retract any slide, retract it ALL THE WAY IN, then put it back out if that's your plan. Good luck. Happy Rving.
Scott

coolcity, You are suppose to level first, then you put the slides out. Common sense will tell you that. If you have any mechanical know how, you will know right away that you set up your platform first, then you can put the slides out without putting any twist on the frame of the coach.

My way is once I am happy with the location in the spot I get out and put the jack pads under the jacks. This way I don’t have to crawl under the slides to locate them.
Just for the record on my 2003 38N bounder on each slide room control switch placard it states.
WARNING!!! Ensure motor home is level before operating. Both parking brake and engine running required to activate. Read and understand your owner’s manual to avoid and/or property damage, keep people and objects clear of slide out room while operating.
Bill

samsontdog wrote:

Janss wrote:
My manual says the same. Level first, then run the slides out. Run the slides in before retracting the jacks.

SAME HERE

In my opinion and years of experience your manual is not entirely correct.I do as TIFFIN suggests and i belive that there correct
Slides out then level.(EG) a friend of mines gulfsteam had 2 slides binding.He did it your way and then tryed mine.NO binding after trying my(tiffin) way

Janss wrote:
My manual says the same. Level first, then run the slides out. Run the slides in before retracting the jacks.

SAME HERE

I always put jacks down first, just in case I need to move the RV a couple feet one way or another. I don't want to have to bring the slides back in before I move it.