Geocritter wrote:
I have a 1994 Holiday Rambler with a Ford 460 V8. I recently completed a 2,600 mile return trip to Texas and had what I thought was a bad lifter for the last 1,000 miles. It’d be quiet while the engine was cold but as it warmed up it would begin to clatter. I’ve had bad lifters in cars before and I assumed that’s what was causing the noise. Then I read another thread where the person wrote about having a cracked manifold on his 1996 Ford 460 V8 that made a clacking noise. Would anyone who’s had a cracked manifold on a 460 Ford care to comment on my lifter noise vs cracked manifold noise query? Could one be mistaken for the other? Currently, my rigs in temporary storage while I spend November house-sitting for a friend who’s traveling.
Steve
Well Steve,
Based on your experience, and mine with older engines and possible lifter problems, typically a lifter will make noise when the engine is cold due to all the moving parts inside the lifter bound up by carbon deposits and other materials. But, as the engine warms up a bit, "most" of the time, they quiet down due to the fact that the oil gets a tad thinner and, the engine has developed enough pressure in the oil system to force oil into those troublesome lifters. Now, this is not always the case but, it happened a large percentage of the time.
Now, on cracked manifold, it too will have different characteristics when cold than when the engine is warm. I've had two 460s in my life and, put many thousand miles on both and never had any manifolds crack or, any bolts broke. I've also had the early version V-10 and, that was also a great engine. We ran it for 55K miles in our Bounder and not one issue.
If I had to guess, I'd say your noise is the cracked manifold. But, like other posters have stated, you'd have to do some investigative procedure to narrow it down. I'd maybe get a small mirror and try and squirm all over those manifolds and see if I can see or find a crack while it's not running. Then, start if up, and when dead cold, you'd be able to almost touch the area, (if you can get your fingers into where you might have found the crack) and see if it in fact, is leaking or not when cold.
Then, of course you'd have to be extremely careful when the manifold is hot and try and to the same test or, get some tubing of some sort like rubber or something equal and, run it up to the area where the potential crack is. And put your ear on the other end of the tubing. Good luck.
Scott