Motorized Sun Shade

It's probably just setting the limits issue. I haven't had to adjust mine but there are what appears to be wires or cords (about 4" long) on the passenger side attached to the shade mechanism. These are used to set the limits when the ignition is on.

I don't know if you have the same model.

Safe travels. JD

rgatijnet1 wrote:
Both of my powered sun shades, passenger and driver's side, will go down or up while driving. Even at the maximum lowered position, I can still see out of the windshield.

X2 and sometimes a little adjustment is required going west in the late afternoons. Like yours, there's not much danger of being completely blinded, no matter what the case.

pulsar wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

My "source" is MCD. I called them as I have never heard of that operation and wanted to know if they built a special model. NO, they stated and they explained just what I posted. I deal with both MCD and Auto-Motion which are the 2 major makers of RV electric shades. Doug
Just talked to MCD again. They stated that in theory the shade may FULLY retract, but the design is to make sure that small internal spring keeps the shade from falling down and usually just raises a few inches instead of full retraction.

Thanks, again, for the info. I will call them today to ask about their false claims.

Tom

BTW. This feature is only on the "GOLD" series. Doug

dougrainer wrote:

My "source" is MCD. I called them as I have never heard of that operation and wanted to know if they built a special model. NO, they stated and they explained just what I posted. I deal with both MCD and Auto-Motion which are the 2 major makers of RV electric shades. Doug
Just talked to MCD again. They stated that in theory the shade may FULLY retract, but the design is to make sure that small internal spring keeps the shade from falling down and usually just raises a few inches instead of full retraction.

Thanks, again, for the info. I will call them today to ask about their false claims.

Tom

pulsar wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

I figured you had the MCD. But, when you stated it would retract when the motor failed, that got me thinking. Yes, there is a spring in the MCD Gold Series. But, IF the motor fails the shade will do nothing. It will NOT retract and it will NOT fall down because of an extra spring. You then have to use a clothes pin or something to pin it up if it fails where it blocks your vision. But, as I stated, it will NOT auto retract when the motor fails. Doug

So, you are saying that this statement, "The Solar/Night Shade in your vehicle is equipped with an Automatic Safety Retraction feature, which will retract the Solar/Night Shade to the full upper position in the rare event of an internal motor failure." from the Winnebago Owner's manual and this one, "MCD Switch controlled motors for windshield applications are designed to automatically retract the day or night shade into the full up position in the unlikely event a motor fails." from the product manual and the MCD website are false?

Do you have a source?

Thanks,
Tom

My "source" is MCD. I called them as I have never heard of that operation and wanted to know if they built a special model. NO, they stated and they explained just what I posted. I deal with both MCD and Auto-Motion which are the 2 major makers of RV electric shades. Doug
Just talked to MCD again. They stated that in theory the shade may FULLY retract, but the design is to make sure that small internal spring keeps the shade from falling down and usually just raises a few inches instead of full retraction.

dougrainer wrote:

I figured you had the MCD. But, when you stated it would retract when the motor failed, that got me thinking. Yes, there is a spring in the MCD Gold Series. But, IF the motor fails the shade will do nothing. It will NOT retract and it will NOT fall down because of an extra spring. You then have to use a clothes pin or something to pin it up if it fails where it blocks your vision. But, as I stated, it will NOT auto retract when the motor fails. Doug

So, you are saying that this statement, "The Solar/Night Shade in your vehicle is equipped with an Automatic Safety Retraction feature, which will retract the Solar/Night Shade to the full upper position in the rare event of an internal motor failure." from the Winnebago Owner's manual and this one, "MCD Switch controlled motors for windshield applications are designed to automatically retract the day or night shade into the full up position in the unlikely event a motor fails." from the product manual and the MCD website are false?

Do you have a source?

Thanks,
Tom

pulsar wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

pulsar wrote:


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Both of ours, one called the night shade, the other called the solar shade, are limited the same. If the ignition is on, neither can be down lower than visor height. More over, according to the owner's manual, if the drive motor fails, both shades are retracted.

Tom

Please give Brand of shades. HOW can the shades retract if the motor fails???????? Doug

The shades are MCD Innovations Gold Series Duo/Solo Powered Shades.

The product manual does not explain how they work. It does say: "Do not attempt to pull down (unroll) the shade nor operate the power switch after deployment.... If the Automatic Safety Retraction Feature is activated, please call MCD for further instructions."

Tom

I figured you had the MCD. But, when you stated it would retract when the motor failed, that got me thinking. Yes, there is a spring in the MCD Gold Series. But, IF the motor fails the shade will do nothing. It will NOT retract and it will NOT fall down because of an extra spring. You then have to use a clothes pin or something to pin it up if it fails where it blocks your vision. But, as I stated, it will NOT auto retract when the motor fails. Doug

Class A windshields are huge , unless some one is staring up at mountain tops
Most of us can be happy with setting the shade in place before driving down the road
Yeah options are nice, but it's not a necessity to have them fully retracted out of the way, and to roll them part way down later while driving, when you know you will be driving into the sun later and really should plan on it

I would rather have it in place and know it can't come down from an accidental button push

dougrainer wrote:

pulsar wrote:


...

Both of ours, one called the night shade, the other called the solar shade, are limited the same. If the ignition is on, neither can be down lower than visor height. More over, according to the owner's manual, if the drive motor fails, both shades are retracted.

Tom

Please give Brand of shades. HOW can the shades retract if the motor fails???????? Doug

The shades are MCD Innovations Gold Series Duo/Solo Powered Shades.

The product manual does not explain how they work. It does say: "Do not attempt to pull down (unroll) the shade nor operate the power switch after deployment.... If the Automatic Safety Retraction Feature is activated, please call MCD for further instructions."

Tom

dougrainer wrote:

pulsar wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

pulsar wrote:
It seems to me that if one can't lower it while driving, it's not really useful. How many of us start out and say to ourselves, "I need to lower the visor now, because I will be driving into the sun in 3 hours.

The motorize sun visor on our coach, is use as a night shade. With the engine off, it will lower to cover the entire windshield. With the ignition on, ti will come down only a limit amount. If down when the engine is started, it will raise back up to its limit.

Tom

They usually have the shades in 2's. A Screen shade and a Blackout solid shade. The screen usually is NOT connected to down parameters. The Black out shade is. IF you have the solid shade ONLY, they try to limit its operation with the Key ON. But that is up to the OEM. Doug

Both of ours, one called the night shade, the other called the solar shade, are limited the same. If the ignition is on, neither can be down lower than visor height. More over, according to the owner's manual, if the drive motor fails, both shades are retracted.

Tom

Please give Brand of shades. HOW can the shades retract if the motor fails???????? Doug

Here is the quote from the owner's manual:

Automatic Safety Retraction
The Solar/Night Shade in your vehicle is equipped with an Automatic Safety Retraction feature, which will retract the Solar/Night Shade to the full upper position in the rare event of an internal motor failure.
Should the Automatic Safety Retraction feature deploy, go to your nearest Winnebago Industries® dealer for service before operating the shade again.

The "info kit" is in the RV. I'll go out later see if it provides a manufacturer for the shades.

Although I've not had the opportunity to observe a motor failure, not do I want to, I assume the shades are somehow spring loaded, as are the manual shades on the other windows.

Tom