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Deb_and_Ed_M
Explorer II
Nov 27, 2016

Newer RVs that are hard to winterize.....grrrrr

So today Ed and I wandered over to a Florida CW dealer to look at some new, smaller Class C's in the 22 to 24' size. It's been 3 years since we sold the trusty, entry-level 28' C we owned previously - the one where we could open the lower door and SEE how much water was in the fresh tank; and could access (easily) the pump to switch the 3-way valve so it would suck antifreeze directly from the bottle. We could winterize that thing in under 10 minutes - it was easy.

We were admiring the nice airy floorplan of a Thor Freedom Elite 23' - it was perfect, in my mind - and then in a flash of brilliance, I asked where the water pump was. We searched everywhere. Turning on the pump switch didn't help - the battery was disconnected it seems. Finally, our salesgirl went and got someone from the service department - he wasn't much help; but we all deduced that it *might* be between the outer wall and the freshwater tank under the screwed-down dinette seatbase. Assuming that was it - it was in an incredibly-awkward spot for a procedure that needs to be done at least once - or multiple times if you live in the north and use your RV :-( And if you spill antifreeze - it will be INSIDE the RV.

Hoping to get more insight - we moved over to the same make in a 22' length, and were stymied again. We moved to a Forest River Forester - a massive creature; and of course it had the winterizing system all set up and ready to go. But this particular dealer didn't have any small FR models on hand. I finally apologized to our salesgirl - she had been very helpful, but I told her that not being able to winterize the RV quickly and easily was a deal-breaker for us. I feel bad for the newbies who don't know to look for details like this.

I've been on RV.net for over a decade and have read many complaints about RV designs that make no sense from a utilization standpoint; and now I realize we're about to experience that, too. Ugh.

Are there any 21-to-25' entry-level Class C's with easy access to the water pump?? I'm perfectly capable of adding a 3-way valve to the intake of the pump for winterizing - I just need to get AT the pump to do it.

Deb

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  • The Logans wrote:
    we now just drain the tanks and hot water heater, and blow out the lines with air. We keep the unit plugged in and put two small ceramic heaters in to keep the inside from freezing.


    Why go to the trouble of blowing out the water lines if you keep the unit heated?
  • Dusty R wrote:
    We had an '03 24' Itasca Spirt, the dinette was in the back right corner, and the water pump and fresh water tank was under the dinette seats. You had to remove the table, seat cushions, and lift the ply-wood boards that cushions sat on, that was more of a bother than a problem, no tools were required.
    All the low point drains were under there as well.

    Dusty


    That's what was going to need to be done on the Thor units - only now they have rather clever tables that either are tables or bed supports.... but removing it so you could get to the pump looked like it was going to be a challenge, if it was possible at all. If we bought one of those (for the right price, I can overcome anything....LOL!) I'd just remove the table permanently and install a pedestal table that can simply be lifted out of the way.

    Since I don't know exactly what we'll wind up with (we'll probably buy one at an RV auction) - I'm mentally preparing myself for "surprises"
  • Which is why we stopped winterizing with anti-freeze... we now just drain the tanks and hot water heater, and blow out the lines with air. We keep the unit plugged in and put two small ceramic heaters in to keep the inside from freezing. The tech at the factory told us that freezing in not good for the LED TV screens.
  • We had an '03 24' Itasca Spirt, the dinette was in the back right corner, and the water pump and fresh water tank was under the dinette seats. You had to remove the table, seat cushions, and lift the ply-wood boards that cushions sat on, that was more of a bother than a problem, no tools were required.
    All the low point drains were under there as well.

    Dusty
  • reminds me of when I was at the Gulf Stream (IIRC) factory looking at a unit and asked about the location of the water pump for access to winterize, etc.
    the fellow showing me around couldn't find it, he got somebody from production out and he was no help. it ended being behind a standard compartment type door behind which was a metal plate that also had to be removed.

    bumpy
  • It probably would not be a good idea to take one to that dealer for winterizing... Hope none of those folks ever work on space systems.