Propane relay stays on and drain batteries?

wa8yxm wrote:
Safety cut off solenoid gets the 12 volts that energizes it from the PROPANE/EXPLOSIVE GAS detector. if you have the emergency shut off (You do) then your Detector should have an ON/OFF switch.

OFF, is OFF. since it's a hard switch and should De-energize the solenoid.

The fact he called it a "Relay" instead of a "Solenoid" indicates he is not compentent.

What you posted has nothing to do with HIS system. Doug

Safety cut off solenoid gets the 12 volts that energizes it from the PROPANE/EXPLOSIVE GAS detector. if you have the emergency shut off (You do) then your Detector should have an ON/OFF switch.

OFF, is OFF. since it's a hard switch and should De-energize the solenoid.

The fact he called it a "Relay" instead of a "Solenoid" indicates he is not compentent.

Kidoo wrote:
When I turn the outside knob, the solenoid clics and cuts propane to the propane equipment. If I turn it on, it clics and propane is open. What you mean by remote filling?

Because the LP tank is under and in the center of the motorhome, the fill nozzle at the LP filler station does NOT connect direct to the tank. There is an extension hose that the filler connects to and that is what I call the remote filler. Doug

When I turn the outside knob, the solenoid clics and cuts propane to the propane equipment. If I turn it on, it clics and propane is open. What you mean by remote filling?

Kidoo wrote:
It is in fact installed between the tank and the regulator.

Ah....So the solenoid is for a remote fill and not a LP detector.
I have a few RV friends with Monaco and Holiday Rambler DPs from the late 90s to the early 20s that have CCI systems. The reason I'm versed in CCI stuff is that I went into CCI detector repairs when CCI went out of business. I then turned it over to an Electrical Engineer friend, who continues to do the repair.

Richard

It is in fact installed between the tank and the regulator.

RLS7201 wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

RLS7201 wrote:
If you truly have a CCI propane detector, the solenoid is designed for low pressure and should be down stream from the regulator. If the system fails you can remove the solenoid valve from the system and replace the detector with an alert only detector. Or The detector can be repaired. There is a fellow (Larry) in Olathe Kansas that does CCI repair. You can contact him a ccirepairs@gmail.com Larry does good work and offers good customer service.

Richard

His system the solenoid is on the HI pressure side. Once it goes thru the solenoid the LP then goes into the LP regulator. Doug

Interesting. I wonder who else made a LP detector in 2004 that controlled a solenoid beside CCI? CCI clearly states in their installation instructions to mount the solenoid down stream from the pressure regulator Also, noted on the solenoid is 0.4 PSI max. Could it be that Monaco installed it wrong? As we both know, Monaco did use CCI detectors in that era.

Richard

As a Dealer tech for a dealer who sold Monaco from 1998 till they went under in 2008, that solenoid system was used when they installed the ASME tank under and in the middle of the chassis frame. They had a remote fill tube and then that 12 volt solenoid that shut the tank OFF BEFORE the LP regulator. You are talking about the LOW PRESSURE CCI type systems that the LP detector, IF it sensed LP would shut off the solenoid at the tank. I am not aware of that many Monaco DIESEL's that used the CCI type system. The Monaco Gas rigs used the CCI sometimes. There was NO detector used. You opened the outside compartment door in front of the pass rear wheels and there was the remote fill and a red light and an ON/OFF toggle switch that turned the solenoid on and off. Red light ON and the solenoid was on. Doug

dougrainer wrote:

RLS7201 wrote:
If you truly have a CCI propane detector, the solenoid is designed for low pressure and should be down stream from the regulator. If the system fails you can remove the solenoid valve from the system and replace the detector with an alert only detector. Or The detector can be repaired. There is a fellow (Larry) in Olathe Kansas that does CCI repair. You can contact him a ccirepairs@gmail.com Larry does good work and offers good customer service.

Richard

His system the solenoid is on the HI pressure side. Once it goes thru the solenoid the LP then goes into the LP regulator. Doug

Interesting. I wonder who else made a LP detector in 2004 that controlled a solenoid beside CCI? CCI clearly states in their installation instructions to mount the solenoid down stream from the pressure regulator Also, noted on the solenoid is 0.4 PSI max. Could it be that Monaco installed it wrong? As we both know, Monaco did use CCI detectors in that era.

Richard

RLS7201 wrote:
If you truly have a CCI propane detector, the solenoid is designed for low pressure and should be down stream from the regulator. If the system fails you can remove the solenoid valve from the system and replace the detector with an alert only detector. Or The detector can be repaired. There is a fellow (Larry) in Olathe Kansas that does CCI repair. You can contact him a ccirepairs@gmail.com Larry does good work and offers good customer service.

Richard

His system the solenoid is on the HI pressure side. Once it goes thru the solenoid the LP then goes into the LP regulator. Doug

If you truly have a CCI propane detector, the solenoid is designed for low pressure and should be down stream from the regulator. If the system fails you can remove the solenoid valve from the system and replace the detector with an alert only detector. Or The detector can be repaired. There is a fellow (Larry) in Olathe Kansas that does CCI repair. You can contact him a ccirepairs@gmail.com Larry does good work and offers good customer service.

Richard