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midasman
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Mar 31, 2015

Reliability of coaches using DEF

I have wanted to upgrade as my Holiday Ambassador is moving toward it's 10th year. How are people doing with the newer coaches using DEF? It's made me wonder if moving back to a gas coach makes more sense. Or, keeping and modernizing my diesel pusher. We do Ouray, Colorado every year which means pulling my Jeep Wrangler over the Million Dollar Highway, climbing higher than 12000 feet...
  • Thunder Mountain wrote:
    We too are looking at a new coach as we are approaching ten years. One salesman told us the DEF engines actually get better mileage. Tell me if this is fact or just another example of a salesmen telling the tale to make a sale.


    In theory it can be true.
    It's because the DEF system works so well that they are able to put some of the timing and fuel curves back where they used to be when diesels got such good fuel efficiency.
  • We too are looking at a new coach as we are approaching ten years. One salesman told us the DEF engines actually get better mileage. Tell me if this is fact or just another example of a salesmen telling the tale to make a sale.
  • Considering the millions of miles put on by over the road trucks,
    I would also say...A non issue ..
  • We have DEF too, no problems in 11,000 miles. Had to learn how to operate the pump when using two different fuels. Piece of cake. LOL!

    Don't worry about DEF.

    MM.
  • I have a neighbor who works where there is a fleet of medium duty trucks that use DEF. They are the most reliable trucks they have ever had.
    As said before, DEF is a non-issue.
  • DEF has become a huge enabler for the engine manufacturers allowing higher combustion pressures, higher temperatures, and higher outputs (HP/Torque). With DEF they don't have to deal with the emissions side of things as much.
  • DEF is a non issue - we have 26K on our motor home. It is just to make the diesel have a cleaner exhaust