Tiffin vs Newmar

45Ricochet wrote:
This is the first Tiffin warranty claim that was denied by Tiffin I have read about. Most on the tiffinrvnetwork site say just the opposite, as in warranty covered the cost some 5 years later.
I'm certain we have not heard the entire story either. You can usually tell the source from grammar alone :W
OBTW it is a well know issue that Tiffin does fix for you folks in the high humidity areas like south Florida. IIRC they will tape the ducks but most folks with common sense just turn on the genny and run the roof A/C's.

Nice attack my grammar really? Just for the record I am a Doctor(so I must be educated). If you read my post condinsation occured under the dash while we were parked using the roof air water seeping out between the dash seams.Why in the world would you launch an attack on me because I told of my experience? Are you a paid tiffin shill? I did not enjoy losing the money by unloading a year old coach(a potential buyer contacted me on trvn after I had traded he came to see the coach I told him all the issues he passed on the coach, that is why I traded I would not lie to a buyer) This remindes me why I do not visit this forum very often anymore. I try to help people by sharing my experiences. WHY DO YOU ATTACK THE MESENGER?

Mile High, yup, this was a Tour.

eheading wrote:
Friends' problems with Entegra, door fit problem, never totally cured, but they can live with it, slide leak problems at the bottom of slide when retracted immediately come to mind. Winnebago problems are too numerous to remember, bed problem, repeated slide problems with the famous Swintech slides, paint issues, etc. etc.

Thanks. I'm not finding the Schwintek except on the brand new tour.

Bob&Ann I have been in the Auto and RV repair industry my whole life and have found on occasion no matter what one does for a customer it does not always satisfy some people

I have had Bob and Don at tiffin bend over backwards to accommidate me
over the last 6 years

Fla Tom wrote:
one repeated issue front cap to dash seal when humid water condensed inside the dash water would seep from the top to bottom dash joint mildew formed inside the dash(this was when camping running roof air although it occured while driving the cup holder in drawer would fill with water) several attempts to repair were made(expanding foam sprayed in) the second issue the parramount awning was holding water (tney corrected this on the 2015 and said they would fix ours) when we returned the coach to the dealer the tiffin rep told me they were not fixing the angle on 2014 awnimgs anymore and to only use it when it is not raining, he told me they did everything they could on the condensation issue "it is the way thy put the new dash in". We had anotner issue of drafts blowing in the slide under the fridge an ajustment was made I was told (by the tiffin rep)"that is as good as it gets". Third issue light streamed around the bed room slides(both sides) when open. There was a gap
between the slideout and the wall, the fix? Yep it was tape. No I did not take it to the factory and sit but I was told by the tiffin rep (not the dealer) that it was as good as it gets.The main reason I went with the Tiffin was the reported great service. I spent and lost a great deal of money it has a very big disappointment.

FloridaTom
WOW sounds like a major incompetent dealer issue. There is no way that I would get rid of a one year old 45LP because somebody told me that is as good as it gets. It would be interesting to know who you talked with at Tiffin. If you had called Bob Tiffin that person would have been looking for employment by morning. I know that top management has always done everything in their power to satisfy the customer.

Friends' problems with Entegra, door fit problem, never totally cured, but they can live with it, slide leak problems at the bottom of slide when retracted immediately come to mind. Winnebago problems are too numerous to remember, bed problem, repeated slide problems with the famous Swintech slides, paint issues, etc. etc.

Your point was taken, and to consider that some will complain if you hung them with a new rope, and every little thing is a major catastrophe, The Newmar coach on a Spartan Chassis, driven by a Cummings is as good as it gets in this industry. and no single manufacturer can please every body.
That said, you simply can't expect the lower end coaches that use chip board as a major construction material, to compare with the high end quality builders like Newmar.

Bruce Brown wrote:
^^^ Pretty condescending post. I think that says a lot too. :W

As for not owning one, again, from the earlier thread;

In my case I fell for the hype and recommended it to my parents. I personally ended up working on theirs more in 5 years than I have all 3 of our Newmars combined, since 1999. Yet if you were to ask Mom today (Dad has since passed away) she would tell you what a wonderful MH it was - she never worked on it.

And it wasn't just one thing, it was always something. From poor design and engineering to terrible construction methods, something was always being worked on. We never did get the baggage doors to close without hitting each other. That's a fairly serious structural flaw.

I know a lot of people like them, I'm not one of them.

BUT in fairness your comparing one unit from many years ago.They make thousands of units !! I can give u a list of people whom I have meet that have had things like slide issues and leaks etc that owned newmars and wont buy again./Iam on my second diesel pusher tiffin and albeit not perfect I have not seen any compartment door issues or structual issues never mind so called serious structural issues
Like I have posted here a few times it appears that Newmar and Tiffin have overcome their deficiencies in the last 4 years or so as neither group seems to have many complaints like in the past

^^^ Pretty condescending post. I think that says a lot too. :W

As for not owning one, again, from the earlier thread;

In my case I fell for the hype and recommended it to my parents. I personally ended up working on theirs more in 5 years than I have all 3 of our Newmars combined, since 1999. Yet if you were to ask Mom today (Dad has since passed away) she would tell you what a wonderful MH it was - she never worked on it.

And it wasn't just one thing, it was always something. From poor design and engineering to terrible construction methods, something was always being worked on. We never did get the baggage doors to close without hitting each other. That's a fairly serious structural flaw.

I know a lot of people like them, I'm not one of them.

one repeated issue front cap to dash seal when humid water condensed inside the dash water would seep from the top to bottom dash joint mildew formed inside the dash(this was when camping running roof air although it occured while driving the cup holder in drawer would fill with water) several attempts to repair were made(expanding foam sprayed in) the second issue the parramount awning was holding water (tney corrected this on the 2015 and said they would fix ours) when we returned the coach to the dealer the tiffin rep told me they were not fixing the angle on 2014 awnimgs anymore and to only use it when it is not raining, he told me they did everything they could on the condensation issue "it is the way thy put the new dash in". We had anotner issue of drafts blowing in the slide under the fridge an ajustment was made I was told (by the tiffin rep)"that is as good as it gets". Third issue light streamed around the bed room slides(both sides) when open. There was a gap between the slideout and the wall, the fix? Yep it was tape. No I did not take it to the factory and sit but I was told by the tiffin rep (not the dealer) that it was as good as it gets.The main reason I went with the Tiffin was the reported great service. I spent and lost a great deal of money it has a very big disappointment.