Tiffin vs Newmar

Fla Tom wrote:

donfrump wrote:

Fla Tom wrote:
I would throw Entegra into the ring if I were you. We owned a tiffin they may have had great warrenty in the past but are definitely slipping now. I can not coment on newmar froom an owners perspective. Our Entegra has wonderful fit and finish(in our tiffin if someone had a campfire 6 sites away we could smell it inside with the Entegra that is not a problem)
a 2 year warranty and 24/7 customer support phone numbers for owners.

Iam not sure what you mean by tiffin great warrenty in the past but slipping now at all?
The dealings I have had in the past year or 2 and have been great and reading current storys of others raving about tiffin warrenty + service also
Go to IRV2 forum and read about the warrenty problems Entera has had in the last 3 years
There is no perfect storm and Entegra make a extremely beautifull motor home no doubt and maybe It should be newmar-Tiffin-Entegra
except entegra only make large diesel pushers

we had multiple issues with our coach(not saying it can not happen with other brands) we had 2 probems pre authorized by tiffin to be repaired, the dealer was backedup and we had a trip planed so we said we would bring the coach back. We returned the coach to the dealer a month later(still u der 1 year warranty) I was informed tiffin withdrew autherization to repair, I spoke with tiffin rep he said tiffin was no longer fixing those issues umder warranty.

weird what was the repair? usually they have a full one year on everything 10 year structural etc.My MH was 5 years over warrenty and they replaced the cracked roof radius no questions asked.(Big job)
I also got over 2000$ of free windows at 3.5 years(leaked)
I would really like to hear from you what warrenty repair was refused by tiffin at less than one year of age heck they even paid me $634 cash when I had to reseal a poped one corner windshield

Bob & Ann wrote:
As stated before most people who don't care for Tiffin have never owned one. It is usually a story about somebody else who they knew----. We too know somebody who bought a 15 Entegra and had to go straight to the factory as soon as they picked it up. We are not going to get into that. Both are great coaches. I can not speak for Newmar as we have never owned one and only an owner can speak for their experiences. I have heard that Newmar will fix their problems. As far as Tiffin: we are on our second and love it. Tiffin has always gone out of their way to make our experiences on service great. If we buy another coach it will be a Tiffin.

I owned one for one year not someome I knew all coachs can have issues, I have dealt with both tiffin and entegra customer service entegra has been much more eager to help(I have had no issues yet that required a visit to the dealer) Tiffin aoutherised 2 repairs to our 45lp when we returned to the dealer Tiffin had recended the autherization(still under 1 year warrenty)tiffin rep said they were no longer fixing those issues under warranty.

Iam not sure what you mean by tiffin great warrenty in the past but slipping now at all?
we had multiple issues with our coach(not saying it can not happen with other brands) we had 2 probems pre authorized by tiffin to be repaired, the dealer was backedup and we had a trip planed so we said we would bring the coach back. We returned the coach to the dealer a month later(still u der 1 year warranty) I was informed tiffin withdrew autherization to repair, I spoke with tiffin rep he said tiffin was no longer fixing those issues umder warranty.

eheading wrote:
We have a 2013 Ventana LE and we have friends with a Winnebago Tour and another with an Entegra Aspire. Those two motorhomes cost significantly more than our Ventana LE did, so I would not put the Ventana LE in their class. As an aside, both of them have had significantly more problems with their coaches than we have had with our Ventana LE.

What kind of problems?

Bruce Brown wrote:

And according to the Entegra website the 2016 Aspire has LP fired Aqua-hot, not diesel.

Ya they still just have LP. I prefer the Diesel 450D diesel Aquahot because it will also use engine heat down the road to heat the aquahot, whereas the LP and 400D diesel do not. I know every rig has some trade offs, but that one tends to bother me a bit.

We have a 2013 Ventana LE and we have friends with a Winnebago Tour and another with an Entegra Aspire. Those two motorhomes cost significantly more than our Ventana LE did, so I would not put the Ventana LE in their class. As an aside, both of them have had significantly more problems with their coaches than we have had with our Ventana LE.

donfrump wrote:
sorry it was the ventena le series I was looking at for comparison to the allegro red

I was wondering if thats where you were looking.

The regular Ventana is a pretty nice piece. I'm an Entegra fan as well, but overall I'd put the regular Ventana about the Aspire.

And according to the Entegra website the 2016 Aspire has LP fired Aqua-hot, not diesel.

donfrump wrote:
sorry it was the ventena le series I was looking at for comparison to the allegro red

Too many versions of the same thing out there! :) Makes me dizzy shopping on foot!

sorry it was the ventena le series I was looking at for comparison to the allegro red

donfrump wrote:

Mile High wrote:

donfrump wrote:

Mile High wrote:
Ellipse/Tour? They seem to offer more features that the Allegro Red or Newmar Ventana or Entegra Aspire anyway, for competitive pricing, and they have been around forever.

a Entegra Aspire is a long ways up the food chain from any of the above mentioned motor homes including the tour

I guess I don't see it that way - Aspire has non-painted slides, non-diesel aqua-hot, all standard on the others including Tour. The Anthem is nice, but nothing impressed me much about the Aspire.

maybe not you personally but its most certainly a big step above ventura and red just in the fact of length with tag axle and 450HP ISL and aqua hot heat systems to name but a few superior things
I should not include the tour (misspoke )had another model in my mind at the time sorry but red and ventura are simply not anywhere near the category of the aspire

Ah you might be right - it seems I was only looking at the 43 ft Ventana and it is a tag axle with aquahot (another brand) and the 400 cummins, but I see the shorter units are all gas furnace. Seems same on the red.