Stomach/Intestines rumbling.???

Food must definitely be cut if she is not eager to get her meals and finishing them promptly. I had a friend who was insisting on feeding twice a day even though her dogs were not hungry. After she cut the kibble in half and replaced it with veggies, her dogs ate better, enjoyed their meals more, and trimmed down and looked and felt better.

Just something to think about.

No dog worth its salt EVER admits to getting enough to eat. There are two truths that they're born "knowing":

1. That they are doomed to starve to death and must therefore NEVER appear to be "full".
AND
2. That every owner is determined to abandon them, therefore they must slavishly greet us upon our return, even if it's only from the bathroom.

Jerrybo66 wrote:
Xteacher..
You are one cruel sadistic taskmaster. Don't look in her eyes? Are you serious? Shame on you........................:)

Yeah, I know.. I feel guilty because the Girl wasn't overweight when she adopted us as a stray... I took her to the local professed dog food gurus. They saw my overweight girl and prescribed the most expensive food they had. Balanced Diet Fat Dog food. I bought the sales pitch .. I keep cutting down on the amount of food, she licks her dish clean only sometimes and she gained four more pounds to 112. What confuses me, she mostly doesn't clean her dish.. She will later but seems to be satisfied with the initial amount. She seems solid, not showing much soft flab but in her movements I know she's just too overweight. Dogs.. Geeesh,,, How to figure them out...

Bahahaha!! :B I only said to ignore pitiful looks and to give attention rather than more food.

If your dog isn't cleaning her bowl all at once, cut back on the amount of food; it's excessive. You want her to do the happy dance at meal time, clean her bowl, and look for more (which you won't giver her ;)). Keep cutting back on the amount until you reach this balance, and she starts losing weight. Of course, upping the exercise is an important component, too.

My husband's family called our house "Beth's Boot Camp and Spa" when my MIL's dog, Rosie, was on her weight loss journey - lol! Rosie panted just existing when we got her, but she became the HAPPIEST dog on earth once she started losing weight and felt better. She loved playing fetch and going for walks. She started out only being able to walk up the street and back, progressing over time to 3 mi./day brisk walks.

Xteacher..
You are one cruel sadistic taskmaster. Don't look in her eyes? Are you serious? Shame on you........................:)

Yeah, I know.. I feel guilty because the Girl wasn't overweight when she adopted us as a stray... I took her to the local professed dog food gurus. They saw my overweight girl and prescribed the most expensive food they had. Balanced Diet Fat Dog food. I bought the sales pitch .. I keep cutting down on the amount of food, she licks her dish clean only sometimes and she gained four more pounds to 112. What confuses me, she mostly doesn't clean her dish.. She will later but seems to be satisfied with the initial amount. She seems solid, not showing much soft flab but in her movements I know she's just too overweight. Dogs.. Geeesh,,, How to figure them out...

Jerrybo66 wrote:
Xteacher...
Your post about weight loss interests me. I feed 1 1/3 cup food twice a day, now, Diamond beef/rice, with a slight topping of chicken/pork/turkey. She's over 100# and licks her bowl clean. I have cut down on everything. Treats, as stated, are homemade. No Chinese garbage. There's a new outlet opened near us called Pet Planet. out of Canada. They express they are the gurus of pet food. Their advertised prices seem excessive. I'm figuring on taking Lady to have a diet analyzed. Have you heard of them? Their food is almost $2.00 a #. It seems like a scam.. I'm feeding them a Beef/rice Diamond dry but have used all the high dollar foods with no positive results. I really don't want to rely on the Pepcid theory. I'm not opposed to high dollar foods but so far they haven't been beneficial to my 110# puppy...
I'm trying to find a place where I can walk her that she (or myself) won't get zapped by a rattlesnake and not give her the idea that it's ok to leave the property because she left with me. I caught a church member trying to entice her into a car when the dog strayed into the parking lot. If I wouldn't of caught her, Lady would of been and possibly sold. Lady has the appearance of being an expressive Rottweiler.. Monetarily, she is worthless to us.. She's our adopted girl, nothing more, nothing less. She has a scar on her nose that may of indicated a pit fighter. That is why we adopted her. .
Some nights she will wake us with the best I can describing as "chewing growls". I check with a spotlight outside and guess what, nobody's there. She's my protector girl...She earns her keep.She's my, though overweight, girl....:)

I've had very good luck feeding Wellness Core Reduced Fat kibble. The Diamond kibble isn't the worst, but it's very high in carbs, which your dog doesn't need. I don't see why you need the gimicky specialty food you mentioned. You can get the Core Reduced Fat at Petsmart - it's not cheap, but it's effective, if fed properly, along with increased exercise.

I'd ask your vet what an ideal weight for your dog should be. I did this when I fostered my MIL's obsese cockapoo, who ended up being DOUBLE her ideal weight :E. Again, feed what the dog SHOULD weigh (and understand that the amount on the bag is most likely excessive; remember, the company's trying to sell dog food!). I would think that 1 c. 2x daily would be plenty. No toppers, no table scraps, no treats, except baby carrots and no-salt green beans (and not too many, or it can cause a gas problem - NOT what you need, lol!). I just add a little water to the kibble to enhance the aroma. Ignore the pitiful looks; your dog's health depends on it. When she begs, go play fetch or go for a walk instead. Show her that attention is more desirable than more food. Overweight dogs have similar health problems as overweight people and have shortened life spans. I know you want your sweet girl to be around as long as possible. As a large breed, joint problems are already too common; being overweight compounds the problem.

Oh, if you do switch kibbles rather than just cutting back on the Diamond, do it slowly to avoid tummy upset. It might take a couple of weeks, or even longer, since she's got a sensitive tummy. Better to switch too slowly than too rapidly.

Be firm; be strong - you can do it!! :C

Xteacher...
Your post about weight loss interests me. I feed 1 1/3 cup food twice a day, now, Diamond beef/rice, with a slight topping of chicken/pork/turkey. She's over 100# and licks her bowl clean. I have cut down on everything. Treats, as stated, are homemade. No Chinese garbage. There's a new outlet opened near us called Pet Planet. out of Canada. They express they are the gurus of pet food. Their advertised prices seem excessive. I'm figuring on taking Lady to have a diet analyzed. Have you heard of them? Their food is almost $2.00 a #. It seems like a scam.. I'm feeding them a Beef/rice Diamond dry but have used all the high dollar foods with no positive results. I really don't want to rely on the Pepcid theory. I'm not opposed to high dollar foods but so far they haven't been beneficial to my 110# puppy...
I'm trying to find a place where I can walk her that she (or myself) won't get zapped by a rattlesnake and not give her the idea that it's ok to leave the property because she left with me. I caught a church member trying to entice her into a car when the dog strayed into the parking lot. If I wouldn't of caught her, Lady would of been and possibly sold. Lady has the appearance of being an expressive Rottweiler.. Monetarily, she is worthless to us.. She's our adopted girl, nothing more, nothing less. She has a scar on her nose that may of indicated a pit fighter. That is why we adopted her. .
Some nights she will wake us with the best I can describing as "chewing growls". I check with a spotlight outside and guess what, nobody's there. She's my protector girl...She earns her keep.She's my, though overweight, girl....:)

xteacher wrote:
Remember that with better food, you don't need to feed as much b/c it's more nutrient dense and most likely, higher in calories. Also, make sure you feed the amount for what the dog should weigh, not what he currently weighs; stop all treats except green beans and carrots. Some dogs like the green beans frozen for extra crunch. I had good luck with Wellness Core Reduced Fat. It has a good protein level, but the fat is much lower than normal. I got my MIL's dog to lose half her (very obsese) body weight in 6 months using this kibble.

Exercise is critical, too. We played lots of fetch in the house and yard, went on walks, starting with around the block, and working up to 3 miles/day. Rattlesnakes - yikes! Do you have stairs in your house? I used to have a boxer that I would play fetch with up and down the stairs to my bonus room; worked pretty well in nasty weather with him. I'd throw the toy down the stairs and he'd bring it back up the stairs to me.

I think maybe you have hit my fault.. I buy good food but give according to volume instead of need. We do the toy exercise but obviously not enough..There is a Canadian outfit that has opened up near who proclaims to be a guru in dog nutrition. .. So be it but I'll try them. My first impression They want to sell their expensive brand ..Other "opinions" are worth only interpretations ..

Remember that with better food, you don't need to feed as much b/c it's more nutrient dense and most likely, higher in calories. Also, make sure you feed the amount for what the dog should weigh, not what he currently weighs; stop all treats except green beans and carrots. Some dogs like the green beans frozen for extra crunch. I had good luck with Wellness Core Reduced Fat. It has a good protein level, but the fat is much lower than normal. I got my MIL's dog to lose half her (very obsese) body weight in 6 months using this kibble.

Exercise is critical, too. We played lots of fetch in the house and yard, went on walks, starting with around the block, and working up to 3 miles/day. Rattlesnakes - yikes! Do you have stairs in your house? I used to have a boxer that I would play fetch with up and down the stairs to my bonus room; worked pretty well in nasty weather with him. I'd throw the toy down the stairs and he'd bring it back up the stairs to me.

Xteacher...
I feed them twice a day. At one time the Pit was on a diet of green beans & pumpkin to lose weight. I bought low fat food. The grain-free Diamond I feed them now is also 15/25...I don't remember the kind of "Taste of Wild" food. I don't buy lamb because it seems to give him the ability to.."clear a room". :R. The Pit for some reason after I just about gave up slimming him down, lost weight. It worried me enough to have the sonogram done. All's OK.. He's been staying just about right in weight. Now the Rottie went to about 15# overweight. They have been on grain free for a couple years. I started thinking a couple weeks ago, maybe I feed them too late some mornings and that may cause the gas. Maybe that was the cause of the clear barf-up..They now get fed right after our coffee. The Pit suffered all day yesterday with rumbles, he didn't eat. I went out last night to buy Pepcid and started first thing this morning, before coffee, with each a pill.. I'm going to go the suggested Pepcid route with earlier feedings.. I've about given up on diet.. I may put the Rottie on green bean & pumpkin for a while. It lost about only a couple pounds on the Pit..Not much faith in it..They run free on our couple acres and they could use more exercise but it's rattlesnake time and I don't trust them walking on the desert trails....Always something with our pets..... Being others have this problem I'll check back in a couple weeks to update the latest "remedy"... Thanks to all...

We also have stopped the bile vomiting. We realized ours only did it after long periods of no food. She was eating once a day at dinner. We split her food into two meals and feed some morning and night. No more bile vomiting problem. Our vet suggested we try this and it worked.