data plan

Executive wrote:
Rather then edit my earlier post, below is the disclaimer from OmniLynx. There is more, but I've posted what I consider relevant to this discussion....Dennis


The OmniLynx™ Program offers access to an unlimited data plan that is not otherwise accessible by non-government users. Due to the potential for increased burden on network infrastructure during peak hours of utilization, the service provider reserves the full right to reduce data transfer speeds (commonly referred to as "throttling") as necessary.

The OmniLynx™ Program reserves the right to deny provision of services or to terminate existing account services if and as deemed necessary for the benefit of the program. In the event that an existing line of service is terminated at the option of OmniLynx™, the unamortized (prorated) portion of all prepaid balance(s) will be promptly refunded to the user(s).

Do you like this terms of service excerpt better?

"We can, without notice, limit, suspend or end your Service or any agreement with you for any good cause, including, but not limited to: (1) if you: (a) breach this agreement; (b) resell your Service; (c) use your Service for any illegal purpose, including use that violates trade and economic sanctions and prohibitions promulgated by any US governmental agency; (d) install, deploy or use any regeneration equipment or similar mechanism (for example, a repeater) to originate, amplify, enhance, retransmit or regenerate an RF signal without our permission; (e) steal from or lie to us; or, if you're a Postpay customer; (f) do not pay your bill on time; (g) incur charges larger than a required deposit or billing limit, or materially in excess of your monthly access charges (even if we haven't yet billed the charges); (h) provide credit information we can't verify; or (i) are unable to pay us or go bankrupt; or (2) if you, any user of your device or any line of service on your account, or any account manager on your account: (a) threaten, harass, or use vulgar and/or inappropriate language toward our representatives; (b) interfere with our operations; (c) "spam," or engage in other abusive messaging or calling; (d) modify your device from its manufacturer's specifications; or (e) use your Service in a way that negatively affects our network or other customers. We can also temporarily limit your Service for any operational or governmental reason."

WHAT ARE VERIZON WIRELESS' RIGHTS TO LIMIT OR END SERVICE OR END THIS AGREEMENT?

I think you'll find similar wording in every carrier's TOS.

Naio wrote:

MrWizard wrote:

i have an old Verizon unlimited plan

Lucky you!

throttling does not stop web surfing and email use, but will impact streaming video, so even if speed is throttled (and it hasn't been Yet) you can still set there on the PC on facebook all day and keep using them megabytes

Not true.

Email is possible when throttled, but netsurfing, while theoretically possible, is so slow as to be unfeasible. You'd have to figure out how to disable your web browser's timeout feature , because it might take hours to load one simple, text-based web page.

i don't think i ever had a text based web page take that long
page time out yes
and it usually loads quickly on the refresh
and that usually means a server bandwidth load .. on that end
and these forums.. well the software is OLD, the servers are new
and there are tens of thousands of members

i'm not going to wait hours on ANY webpage, TEXT only pages are rarer than unlimited data plans :W

Rather then edit my earlier post, below is the disclaimer from OmniLynx. There is more, but I've posted what I consider relevant to this discussion....Dennis


The OmniLynx™ Program offers access to an unlimited data plan that is not otherwise accessible by non-government users. Due to the potential for increased burden on network infrastructure during peak hours of utilization, the service provider reserves the full right to reduce data transfer speeds (commonly referred to as "throttling") as necessary.

The OmniLynx™ Program reserves the right to deny provision of services or to terminate existing account services if and as deemed necessary for the benefit of the program. In the event that an existing line of service is terminated at the option of OmniLynx™, the unamortized (prorated) portion of all prepaid balance(s) will be promptly refunded to the user(s).

bhivetravels wrote:
I've just received my unlimited data wifi device from Omni-Lynx http://www.hsvwifi.com/BuildOrder strangely managed by / ordered through a school district in Alabama I believe. It is supposed to be nation wide on 4G. I'll experiment with it over the winter as we travel. We have used a mifi device for the past three years from Verizon and as long as you don't stream video you can manage your data.

I'm fortunate enough to have the grandfathered Verizon plan. I did look into this plan too and have a couple concerns about it. The plan was originally designed for the school district and has been expanded. There's a big push right now to sell these plans nationwide. It is also through Verizon, but there is a catch. IF Verizon decides the plan is too robust and throttles the school district, they will cut off all the other plans. To me, this means it's an iffy proposition. It is here now, but may be gone tomorrow. On the surface it appears to be an excellent choice.

Those posting about whether an unlimited plan is necessary are spot on. Not everyone needs an unlimited plan. 20g of data, to me, is rare. I usually exceed 35g month and often reach 70g levels, so unlimited is essential for us. Not everyone uses that much data so everyone needs to look at their individual usage to determine if one truly needs unlimited.....Dennis

Effy wrote:

2oldman wrote:

Bill.Satellite wrote:
Unlimited cellular data is nearly non-existent with service providers these days.

x2

Move this thread to Tech.

x3 - there is no such thing as unlimited data. They call it that and frankly it's a lie. Read the fine print. Usually after you burn through a few gigs they start throttling you down, and there is of course a limit whereby you need to pay when you exceed x- gigs. Not even similar to unlimited, but they get away with calling it that. What it really says is unlimited to a point. Bit of an oxymoron.

Unlimited data does not necessarily mean unlimited speed as well. That said, I just hit 7GB on my OmniLynx/Verizon unlimited plan with no signs of any throttling so far.

MrWizard wrote:

i have an old Verizon unlimited plan

Lucky you!

throttling does not stop web surfing and email use, but will impact streaming video, so even if speed is throttled (and it hasn't been Yet) you can still set there on the PC on facebook all day and keep using them megabytes

Not true.

Email is possible when throttled, but netsurfing, while theoretically possible, is so slow as to be unfeasible. You'd have to figure out how to disable your web browser's timeout feature , because it might take hours to load one simple, text-based web page.

enblethen wrote:
I still have a grandfathered in "unlimited" and no I am not aware of any throttling.

What Bill is saying is that NEW unlimited plans are rare.

I still have a grandfathered in "unlimited" and no I am not aware of any throttling.

Effy wrote:

2oldman wrote:

Bill.Satellite wrote:
Unlimited cellular data is nearly non-existent with service providers these days.

x2

Move this thread to Tech.

x3 - there is no such thing as unlimited data. They call it that and frankly it's a lie. Read the fine print. Usually after you burn through a few gigs they start throttling you down, and there is of course a limit whereby you need to pay when you exceed x- gigs. Not even similar to unlimited, but they get away with calling it that. What it really says is unlimited to a point. Bit of an oxymoron.

you guys are dead wrong

i have an old Verizon unlimited plan
and it works and its unlimited and i have never been CUT off, out of data, can't use

have i been throttled ?
i don't know ?
I have never been given a notice of any kind regarding data
i get notices of how much of my plan minutes i have used (550 minutes a month) and notices on my text msg plan ( 250 text a month )
but never on my data

i know they are rarer than Hens Teeth , and i know the wireless telcos don't offer them to consumers any more,
it was AT&T that got in trouble for throttling people, Also Sprint i think

and it was VZW that got in trouble for advertising unlimited ACCESS (anytime anyplace as often as you want) as "unlimited" implying something it was not, after making plan changes

BUT the omnilynx Huntsville plan, has been thoroughly explained as to whys and hows and the "tracking", in the original thread (read it all..dont skip through it)

i have been stress testing mine, and it is working great

and a reminder, that throttling does not stop web surfing and email use, but will impact streaming video, so even if speed is throttled (and it hasn't been Yet) you can still set there on the PC on facebook all day and keep using them megabytes

I'm way too chicken to do my banking on cg wifi :).

But my phone hotspot is easy to set so that no computers other than my two laptops can access it, even WITH the correct passwords. If I have a guest, I can add them.

I realise no security is perfect, but I like the extra layers of protection.