Hardwiring the modum to the Computer?

fj12ryder wrote:
Did you bother to read my post? I said it is possible, but also extremely unlikely.

Same applies to home burglaries. Do you leave your house unlocked when away camping?

rhagfo wrote:
Wireless can be well secured, if the ISP supplied modem doesn't have wireless security available disable it on the modem and place a good router with very good wireless security features. We have gone right to MAC address filtering.

Perfect! I agree.

Wireless can be protected in several ways far more than you and I can visualize. This becomes even more popular with the inception of the 64-bit processors. Although 64-bit is primarily aimed at better handling of RAM, it can also provide security for the kernel.

It protects the kernel from being altered by a trojan that a hacker could have imbedded in the system.

However, this did not deter hackers from attacking the system on the downstream end. Sometimes they even come back stronger than ever.

This malware at the early stage in the boot segment is difficult to remove and if you are successful in removing it, you will end up obliterating the whole system because attackers often imbed bits that will destroy everything beyond repair.

Solution ? Get a sledge hammer and recycle the parts for melting.

Just an aside:

I heard China is building an all-electric car that will complete Tesla. With this, we can expect cars on the road made from our recycled hard drives.

Perhaps even RVs, don't you think? :-)

Wireless can be well secured, if the ISP supplied modem doesn't have wireless security available disable it on the modem and place a good router with very good wireless security features. We have gone right to MAC address filtering.

fj12ryder wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^Uh, how does one give numbers to support a negative contention? You can't prove a negative, but you can cite numbers to support the supposedly common attack on personal LAN's. You can start anytime. Anytime at all. Should be easy if it's all that frequent, and well known. Lot's of attacks reported I'm sure. So just whip out a few occurrences.

That's easy. When you ping someone, take the volume of traffic and any attempt whether they are malicious or legitimate. The ratio is what you will get. Older versions of Windows
like Windows NT which were the flagship of US military at the time when Win NT was the best in the business. It was difficult to hack probably because hacking wasn't the fad at the time. This feature was eventually eliminated in succeeding versions because consumer find no use for it in dealing with every day chore.

If you have machine that can do this, most of your dilemma can be put to rest. . .thus you can get a good night's sleep.

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^^^^^^^^^^Uh, how does one give numbers to support a negative contention? You can't prove a negative, but you can cite numbers to support the supposedly common attack on personal LAN's. You can start anytime. Anytime at all. Should be easy if it's all that frequent, and well known. Lot's of attacks reported I'm sure. So just whip out a few occurrences.

fj12ryder wrote:
Did you bother to read my post? I said it is possible, but also extremely unlikely. Gifted crackers don't go around and sniff packets on the odd wifi just on the off chance that they might come across something interesting.
If it were as common as you would lead one to believe then you could easily cite several instances from the people around you, as could anyone else. However you can't because it just doesn't happen that often.
But you keep wearing that tinfoil hat, and believe all the stuff you read. :) And then come back with one verifiable instance of someone you know having their wifi traffic intercepted and their LAN compromised. Something tells me it could be a very long wait. :)

Yeah, I did read the misinformation that you are trying to broadcast...with the tinfoil blind in front of my double vision eyeglasses.

It would be interesting if you can give some numbers to support your contention.

Did you bother to read my post? I said it is possible, but also extremely unlikely. Gifted crackers don't go around and sniff packets on the odd wifi just on the off chance that they might come across something interesting.

If it were as common as you would lead one to believe then you could easily cite several instances from the people around you, as could anyone else. However you can't because it just doesn't happen that often.

But you keep wearing that tinfoil hat, and believe all the stuff you read. :) And then come back with one verifiable instance of someone you know having their wifi traffic intercepted and their LAN compromised. Something tells me it could be a very long wait. :)

fj12ryder wrote:
Yes, it is certainly possible. But, honestly, how likely is it that it actually will occur? Does anyone know anyone that it has happened to? Do we have any figures about how likely/often it is going to happen? It's much more likely that I will be badly injured in a car accident than I will be the victim of a MiM strategy. But that doesn't stop me from driving where I want to go.
Yes, people should be made aware of the possibility, but also made aware of the extremely unlikely occurrence. Possible, but very, very unlikely.

You don't need statistics to prove that hacking actually occur.

Keeping track of any breaches that might occur is like counting grains of sand at a beach resort. Perhaps, if you find something of value like a speck of diamond in a bucket of a skip loader, it will be worth the effort.


A determined hacker with underlying motive can gain entry easily than a child can open a cookie jar. This is what's keeping programmer/code writers on the payroll. Without breaches we won't need anti-virus. Think of it this way: if no one is throwing trash in our streets we won't need street sweepers.

A teenager who has a lot of time on his hands after school--given the resources, could break into a bank's server or files at the Pentagon. It has happened before. Ask Snowden or Assange (wikileak hotshot). . . either of these guys can tell you.

The signal on wireless is there for everyone to peruse because it is broadcast for everyone to capture. Not all users are savvy enough to bother using the key (Password) at least to alleviate this unauthorized access. With the right equipment and encryption, you can process, amplify or scramble it.

This is how wireless data delivery are designed. By making it user-friendly, security is compromised. People who are technology-challenged are not attracted to anything that requires a lot of thinking. We are not all smart (LOL). . . in fact designers assume that people are stupid. By making their stuff a no-brainer, they're able to laugh their way to the bank. Capitalism at its best.

I love America.

Also, without this relatively easy feature, even your car radio would be hard pressed in receiving meaningful signal.

But if you enjoy the crackling sound of popcorn (albeit eating it), this anomaly will probably serve you best.

And finally, just to give you an idea how easy it is to hack. . . no one would even know that someone is pinging this exchange at the moment.

With all the rubbish strewn all over, hackers won't even bother.

Have a nice day.

Yes, it is certainly possible. But, honestly, how likely is it that it actually will occur? Does anyone know anyone that it has happened to? Do we have any figures about how likely/often it is going to happen? It's much more likely that I will be badly injured in a car accident than I will be the victim of a MiM strategy. But that doesn't stop me from driving where I want to go.

Yes, people should be made aware of the possibility, but also made aware of the extremely unlikely occurrence. Possible, but very, very unlikely.

RedRocket204 wrote:

1492 wrote:
Except for security purposes. Removing one extra layer of possible exploit when using WiFi. Though encrypted, gives a hacker an extra doorway to work with.

Almost nobody turns off or hides the wireless signal from a WAP when a computer is hardwired and it doesn't sound like the OP even knows about it. So, how is the security better when the wireless signal is still active even if the computer is hardwired?

As mentioned, its the MiM thats the danger. A favorite strategy used by hackers on wireless signals. With no packets transferred via wireless, then no critical info to sniff.