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If you were going to replace your roof top antenna. What antenna would you replace it with and would you use an amp also? I have a winegard mount up there now

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hottubkid wrote:
Just to close this out. I ended up buying a winegard Rayzar, Air and a new switch box. The 12 volt from the box would come on and off as it pleased and I decided to buy the new antenna. I am very happy. I now have 76 channels in my back yard from over the air stations. Would spend the money again. The new antenna is great


Glad to see that it is working out great. The large number of stations may have come from having a good cloud cover when the scan was run, or doing it after sun was below horizon.

If some of the farther away signals should get too weak to watch during a sunny day, don't panic. As long as your television still has those links stored, the channels will most likely supply a good signal after dark, or when a good cloud cover returns.

Rescanning on a sunny day may not get the links from the farthest away channels.

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hottubkid wrote:
Just to close this out. I ended up buying a winegard Rayzar, Air and a new switch box. The 12 volt from the box would come on and off as it pleased and I decided to buy the new antenna. I am very happy. I now have 76 channels in my back yard from over the air stations. Would spend the money again. The new antenna is great


Glad to see that it is working out great. The large number of stations may have come from having a good cloud cover when the scan was run, or doing it after sun was below horizon.

If some of the farther away signals should get too weak to watch during a sunny day, don't panic. As long as your television still has those links stored, the channels will most likely supply a good signal after dark, or when a good cloud cover returns.

Rescanning on a sunny day may not get the links from the farthest away channels.

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Bill.Satellite wrote:
The Sensar Pro has nothing to do with a Sensar, Sensar II, Sensar III or Sensar IV. The Wingman changes a Sensar III into a Sensar IV but does not make a Sensar or a Sensar II a Sensar IV.
The Sensar Pro is a great add-on to any of the Winegard amplified antennas but it's not magic!


Your correct Bill, I should have said Sensar III, which I have and plan to upgrade. I contacted Wingard on this but I should have been more clear.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-11T05:58:00.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-11T05:58:00.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":494},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:1252116/message:1252134","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"500","rawBody":"
Bill.Satellite wrote:
The Sensar Pro has nothing to do with a Sensar, Sensar II, Sensar III or Sensar IV. The Wingman changes a Sensar III into a Sensar IV but does not make a Sensar or a Sensar II a Sensar IV.
The Sensar Pro is a great add-on to any of the Winegard amplified antennas but it's not magic!


Your correct Bill, I should have said Sensar III, which I have and plan to upgrade. I contacted Wingard on this but I should have been more clear.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1252134_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:174774":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:174774","uid":174774,"login":"Bill_Satellite","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-12-25T15:29:56.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:174774"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1252133":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1252133","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1252133":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:174774"},"id":"message:1252133","revisionNum":1,"uid":1252133,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1252116"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1252116"},"subject":"Re: roof tv antennas","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1252133"},"body":"The Sensar Pro has nothing to do with a Sensar, Sensar II, Sensar III or Sensar IV. The Wingman changes a Sensar III into a Sensar IV but does not make a Sensar or a Sensar II a Sensar IV.
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Ron3rd wrote:
LarryJM wrote:
Wineguard Sensar IV ... the one with the wingman and Sensar amp/display module.

Larry


X2, and if you got an old Wingman you can make it a Sensar IV by adding the Wingman and Sensor Pro.

x2 I get about 72 miles with mine","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-10T17:41:12.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-10T17:41:12.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":496},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:1252116/message:1252132","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"335","rawBody":"
Ron3rd wrote:
LarryJM wrote:
Wineguard Sensar IV ... the one with the wingman and Sensar amp/display module.

Larry


X2, and if you got an old Wingman you can make it a Sensar IV by adding the Wingman and Sensor Pro.

x2 I get about 72 miles with mine","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1252132_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1252131":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1252131","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1252131":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:793"},"id":"message:1252131","revisionNum":1,"uid":1252131,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1252116"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1252116"},"subject":"Re: roof tv antennas","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1252131"},"body":"
LarryJM wrote:
Wineguard Sensar IV ... the one with the wingman and Sensar amp/display module.

Larry


X2, and if you got an old Wingman you can make it a Sensar IV by adding the Wingman and Sensor Pro.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-10T16:59:03.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-10T16:59:03.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":496},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:1252116/message:1252131","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"252","rawBody":"
LarryJM wrote:
Wineguard Sensar IV ... the one with the wingman and Sensar amp/display module.

Larry


X2, and if you got an old Wingman you can make it a Sensar IV by adding the Wingman and Sensor Pro.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1252131_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:216528":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:216528","uid":216528,"login":"SCVJeff","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-07-28T03:02:33.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:216528"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1252130":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1252130","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1252130":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:216528"},"id":"message:1252130","revisionNum":1,"uid":1252130,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1252116"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1252116"},"subject":"Re: roof tv antennas","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1252130"},"body":"
blw2 wrote:
Omnis are fine.... if you're in urban areas.
Elininates the need to point to the station, which can be a pain...... so if that's your gripe. Go for an omin-directional.

The thing is, they won't pull stations in from as far away....... hence the earlier helpful responses
they could actually be worse in urban areas because there is no way to minimumize reflections on an omni. The only place I could see an actual use for an omni is on a boat in the ocean where pointing can be impossible, and there are no reflections behind you.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-09T09:05:45.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-09T09:05:45.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":495},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:1252116/message:1252130","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"588","rawBody":"
blw2 wrote:
Omnis are fine.... if you're in urban areas.
Elininates the need to point to the station, which can be a pain...... so if that's your gripe. Go for an omin-directional.

The thing is, they won't pull stations in from as far away....... hence the earlier helpful responses
they could actually be worse in urban areas because there is no way to minimumize reflections on an omni. The only place I could see an actual use for an omni is on a boat in the ocean where pointing can be impossible, and there are no reflections behind you.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1252130_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:2884":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2884","uid":2884,"login":"wa8yxm","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-07-04T17:54:30.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2884"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1252129":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1252129","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1252129":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2884"},"id":"message:1252129","revisionNum":1,"uid":1252129,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1252116"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1252116"},"subject":"Re: roof tv antennas","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1252129"},"body":"WInegard Roadstar (OMNI, Flying Saucer)
Jack
Winegard Sensar IV with Sensar Pro

The first is good if you can actually SEE the TV station towers from where you are parked but for long range Well the beam width is 360 Degrees

Now think about your field of vision and how far away you can see things.. Full vision goes to around 100 degrees and motion detection to as much as 180 or more (Weak signal) for your eyes.

But let's say there is some \"Dot\" on the horizion you want to take a closer look at.. you grab your opera glasses.
Now you have about a 40 degree wide field of vision but it's 3 times \"Closer\" than it was seconds ago, You can see more clearly,, But that dot is still too far off (Jack Antenna by the way)

So you grab a good set of FIELD glasses... (Sensar IV) now you can see the dot clearly, but .. Your field of vision is only about 10 degrees.

Of course you can get some commercial tower mount antennas with like 1 Degree of beam width.. Think Telescope.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-09T05:47:29.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-09T05:47:29.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":494},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:1252116/message:1252129","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1043","rawBody":"WInegard Roadstar (OMNI, Flying Saucer)
Jack
Winegard Sensar IV with Sensar Pro

The first is good if you can actually SEE the TV station towers from where you are parked but for long range Well the beam width is 360 Degrees

Now think about your field of vision and how far away you can see things.. Full vision goes to around 100 degrees and motion detection to as much as 180 or more (Weak signal) for your eyes.

But let's say there is some \"Dot\" on the horizion you want to take a closer look at.. you grab your opera glasses.
Now you have about a 40 degree wide field of vision but it's 3 times \"Closer\" than it was seconds ago, You can see more clearly,, But that dot is still too far off (Jack Antenna by the way)

So you grab a good set of FIELD glasses... (Sensar IV) now you can see the dot clearly, but .. Your field of vision is only about 10 degrees.

Of course you can get some commercial tower mount antennas with like 1 Degree of beam width.. Think Telescope.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1252129_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:365026":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:365026","uid":365026,"login":"n7bsn","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-04-11T20:15:56.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:365026"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1252128":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1252128","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1252128":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:365026"},"id":"message:1252128","revisionNum":1,"uid":1252128,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1252116"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1252116"},"subject":"Re: roof tv antennas","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1252128"},"body":"
ScottG wrote:


I'll say. My buddy has a new Arctic Fox TT with one of those. He got one station while I got five with my Jack Ant.


I have the same \"disc\" antenna. I disconnected the antenna and clipped the center conductor of the coax to a random chunk of wire and got more stations then I did with the antenna.

I did some additional testing and sent the results to Northwoods suggesting they stop supplying that antenna.

Like some of the others suggesting the Winegard Batwing with the Wingman addition I have real world credentials on Antenna design and construction.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-08T20:09:17.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-08T20:09:17.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":494},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:1252116/message:1252128","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"643","rawBody":"
ScottG wrote:


I'll say. My buddy has a new Arctic Fox TT with one of those. He got one station while I got five with my Jack Ant.


I have the same \"disc\" antenna. I disconnected the antenna and clipped the center conductor of the coax to a random chunk of wire and got more stations then I did with the antenna.

I did some additional testing and sent the results to Northwoods suggesting they stop supplying that antenna.

Like some of the others suggesting the Winegard Batwing with the Wingman addition I have real world credentials on Antenna design and construction.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1252128_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:39":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:39","position":29,"name":"Nomad","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:317820":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:317820","uid":317820,"login":"ScottG","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-02-25T08:54:16.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:317820"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1252127":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1252127","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1252127":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:317820"},"id":"message:1252127","revisionNum":1,"uid":1252127,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1252116"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1252116"},"subject":"Re: roof tv antennas","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1252127"},"body":"OK, now the double posting thing is finally happening to me - and I did not submit twice.
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