Does costco give discount off of posted fuel price.

westernrvparkowner wrote:

rk911 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
If I were a RV Park owner I would make it known that no one can charge their Electric cars without some form of payment.

Costco Visa card gives 4 percent off at Costco fuel stations.

that'll come, maybe sooner rather than later. someone has to pay for the energy..ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

Already a policy at my parks. And most other park owners I know feel the same way.
On a much more Macro Economic note, what also is bound to happen is once the number of alternative fuel vehicles become more than a mere blip on the radar, there is going to be a federal excise tax associated with them to go to the road and bridge funds. States will also follow suit with the same sort of taxes. Federal taxes total around 18.5 cents per gallon on gasoline and state taxes average another 23 cents. No way those entities pass up that revenue because some vehicles use fuel other than gas or diesel. I would think a mileage tax on alternative fueled vehicles is in our near future.

Totally agree. Something has to pay for the infrastructure. A tax revision will be required. Nothing is free.

rk911 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
If I were a RV Park owner I would make it known that no one can charge their Electric cars without some form of payment.

Costco Visa card gives 4 percent off at Costco fuel stations.

that'll come, maybe sooner rather than later. someone has to pay for the energy..ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

Already a policy at my parks. And most other park owners I know feel the same way.
On a much more Macro Economic note, what also is bound to happen is once the number of alternative fuel vehicles become more than a mere blip on the radar, there is going to be a federal excise tax associated with them to go to the road and bridge funds. States will also follow suit with the same sort of taxes. Federal taxes total around 18.5 cents per gallon on gasoline and state taxes average another 23 cents. No way those entities pass up that revenue because some vehicles use fuel other than gas or diesel. I would think a mileage tax on alternative fueled vehicles is in our near future.
As for John and Angela's post about parks charging a fee and allowing people to hang around for a few hours to charge their vehicle, a big NO WAY!! The last thing any park wants is people who are not guests wandering the park, using the facilities. There are security concerns. Plus, how long before people decide the time used to recharge their cars is s good time to take showers, swim in the pool, let the kids play in playgrounds etc. It's also a good time to clean the car, since the park has trash containers and probably water nearby. Bad, bad, bad idea.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
If I were a RV Park owner I would make it known that no one can charge their Electric cars without some form of payment.

Costco Visa card gives 4 percent off at Costco fuel stations.

Good morning Cummins. Yes I agree, a sign posted on the charge policy is a good idea and good manners would suggest that the Electric vehicle owner asks as well. Our toad is an Electric vehicle so we are in that situation.

Some campgrounds are starting to add themselves to the Plug share app as charge points and some seem to have a flat rate posting. I think they are doing this for two reasons.

A. it can be a revenue stream for them. Customer pulls in, provides his own EVSE (electric vehicle supply equipment). Plugs it into the 50 amp outlet and hangs out for a couple hours or has lunch or whatever. This is usually a last resort scenario when the driver pulls into a charge station and its off line or has a long line. It happens. The infrastructure is developing fast but it happens. I am seeing flat rates of 5 to 10 dollars on the APP for this service.

b. RVers with EV toads are only going to increase and of course if a campground has that facility they will want to stay there. This is the case with a camp ground about 40 KM from our home. It is only a leve 2 charger but is co-located with a store and restaurant and it is common to see an EV there. Probably generates Revenue for them.

By the way, an EVSE or Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment is what interfaces the EV's on board charger to supply mains. Here is a picture of our home unit although when we are on the road we take it out of the garage and mount it in the motorhome. It can plug into 50 amp 30 amp or 15 amp service.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:
If I were a RV Park owner I would make it known that no one can charge their Electric cars without some form of payment.

Costco Visa card gives 4 percent off at Costco fuel stations.

that'll come, maybe sooner rather than later. someone has to pay for the energy..ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

rk911 wrote:

John & Angela wrote:

rk911 wrote:

John & Angela wrote:
...For the vast majority it takes 20 seconds to charge. 10 seconds at night to plug in and 10 seconds in the morning to disconnect. For us that is about twice a week.

20-seconds to charge or 20-minutes? and I'm assuming that's at 240-volts?

Yah, a bit of a play on words, 10 seconds to plug in and 10 seconds to unplug, meaning I don't care how long it takes during the night to charge it only takes me about 20 seconds to do the connecting and disconnecting, However in answer to your question, if our leaf (30 KWH battery) was completely empty, (never the case) it would take about 4 to 5 hours to recharge it. It has a 6,6 KW charger. And yes that is using a 240 connection. Our other car has a smaller battery but also has only a 3.3 kw charger so its about the same. Really we tend to charge when they get to 30 or 40 percent of charge.

At a commercial CHaDemo charger it charges at a 50 KW rate so 30 minutes to 80 percent. Our leaf has a smaller battery than say a Tesla or a Bolt. For those who need more range they can go that route. For us 150 to 200 KM is more than ample range. If you get a medium range EV like our Leaf make sure you get the CHaDemo Quick charge option (standard on all new leafs) so in a pinch if you have a longer trip it charges quicker. That hasn't happened for us yet. Leafs are also cheaper and depending on where you live (country, state or province) they can cost in the mid 20's vice the mid 30's to a lot more. Shorter range EV's 120 KM and shorter can be purchased for around 10,000 used although some 5 year old EV's have a TON of mileage on them. Some not. Remember, people buy these as commuter so some put 25,000 to 40,000 or more kilometers per year on them.

ok, thanks for the clarification. we're not really interested in an electric car until we can get roughly 300 to 400-miles on a charge and a re-charge takes about the same amount of time it takes to fill the gas tank. not likely to happen in my time but you never know.

No problem re the clarification. Lots of people have questions so they can decide wether it is suitable for them, and the reality is, as you pointed out, it is not right for everyone yet. Glad I could help.

Re the recharge, the first 350 KWH charge station was installed a couple weeks ago on highway 15 between Vegas and LA. Now to be clear, no electric vehicle currently available charges at that rate yet. The closest is the Tesla at 125 KWH and again only for the first 80 percent and slower when colder. However that is expected to change in about 2 to 3 years so your wish of a 5 to 10 minute fill up is about that far away. However, price point is expected to be 90,000. Keep in mind that many BMW's and Mercedes are already considerably more than that and are no where near the car as a Tesla. Tesla sold 80,000 cars at 90,000 each this year and the only reason they didn't sell more is because they can't make fast enough.

Safe travels. Happy to answer any other questions if I know the answer. I'm not an expert, just a user and obviously an enthusiast.

John & Angela wrote:

rk911 wrote:

John & Angela wrote:
...For the vast majority it takes 20 seconds to charge. 10 seconds at night to plug in and 10 seconds in the morning to disconnect. For us that is about twice a week.

20-seconds to charge or 20-minutes? and I'm assuming that's at 240-volts?

Yah, a bit of a play on words, 10 seconds to plug in and 10 seconds to unplug, meaning I don't care how long it takes during the night to charge it only takes me about 20 seconds to do the connecting and disconnecting, However in answer to your question, if our leaf (30 KWH battery) was completely empty, (never the case) it would take about 4 to 5 hours to recharge it. It has a 6,6 KW charger. And yes that is using a 240 connection. Our other car has a smaller battery but also has only a 3.3 kw charger so its about the same. Really we tend to charge when they get to 30 or 40 percent of charge.

At a commercial CHaDemo charger it charges at a 50 KW rate so 30 minutes to 80 percent. Our leaf has a smaller battery than say a Tesla or a Bolt. For those who need more range they can go that route. For us 150 to 200 KM is more than ample range. If you get a medium range EV like our Leaf make sure you get the CHaDemo Quick charge option (standard on all new leafs) so in a pinch if you have a longer trip it charges quicker. That hasn't happened for us yet. Leafs are also cheaper and depending on where you live (country, state or province) they can cost in the mid 20's vice the mid 30's to a lot more. Shorter range EV's 120 KM and shorter can be purchased for around 10,000 used although some 5 year old EV's have a TON of mileage on them. Some not. Remember, people buy these as commuter so some put 25,000 to 40,000 or more kilometers per year on them.

ok, thanks for the clarification. we're not really interested in an electric car until we can get roughly 300 to 400-miles on a charge and a re-charge takes about the same amount of time it takes to fill the gas tank. not likely to happen in my time but you never know.

If I were a RV Park owner I would make it known that no one can charge their Electric cars without some form of payment.

Costco Visa card gives 4 percent off at Costco fuel stations.

rk911 wrote:

John & Angela wrote:
...For the vast majority it takes 20 seconds to charge. 10 seconds at night to plug in and 10 seconds in the morning to disconnect. For us that is about twice a week.

20-seconds to charge or 20-minutes? and I'm assuming that's at 240-volts?

Yah, a bit of a play on words, 10 seconds to plug in and 10 seconds to unplug, meaning I don't care how long it takes during the night to charge it only takes me about 20 seconds to do the connecting and disconnecting, However in answer to your question, if our leaf (30 KWH battery) was completely empty, (never the case) it would take about 4 to 5 hours to recharge it. It has a 6,6 KW charger. And yes that is using a 240 connection. Our other car has a smaller battery but also has only a 3.3 kw charger so its about the same. Really we tend to charge when they get to 30 or 40 percent of charge.

At a commercial CHaDemo charger it charges at a 50 KW rate so 30 minutes to 80 percent. Our leaf has a smaller battery than say a Tesla or a Bolt. For those who need more range they can go that route. For us 150 to 200 KM is more than ample range. If you get a medium range EV like our Leaf make sure you get the CHaDemo Quick charge option (standard on all new leafs) so in a pinch if you have a longer trip it charges quicker. That hasn't happened for us yet. Leafs are also cheaper and depending on where you live (country, state or province) they can cost in the mid 20's vice the mid 30's to a lot more. Shorter range EV's 120 KM and shorter can be purchased for around 10,000 used although some 5 year old EV's have a TON of mileage on them. Some not. Remember, people buy these as commuter so some put 25,000 to 40,000 or more kilometers per year on them.

I see a tanker truck at Costco several times a week. I would think with this volume of fuel being used that water in the fuel would be almost nil. I have never had a problem with any of my vehicles on Costco fuel