Don't move firewood

relaxin wrote:
your trees must have gold leafs,,,, LOL!

around here you can buy pine as low as $50 per face cord(4 feet x 8 feet x 16 inches) typically refereed to as "a cord" (not to be mistaken for a bush cord or what is considered to be a real cord 4'x4'x8') hardwood mix depending on the dealer $70 to $80,,, to as high as $100 if you live in a city for a face cord. (+a delivery charge) perhaps your pricing is for a real cord or bush cord, around these parts its a little different how its advertised and sold.
yes I deal with firewood a fair bit as I heat my house and shop with it from mid november to march, have an old classmate that owns a tree maintenance service in the area who also sells,,,firewood, go figure that one, cuts trees down (gets paid) sells the wood (gets paid)
mostly I go out and cut and dry my own firewood for my house, but occasionally do a little trading that nets me a truckload or 2.

the bundles or bags typical here you could fill about 50 from a face cord $8 x 50,,, or even the low end price of about $6.50 x 50

capitalism is great, and I will exercise my right to shop for the best price, and won't allow someone to rob my wallet through a self created monopoly

oh the letter I have was a result of an inquiry to clarify their rules, the intention of having it is as said encase I encounter an overzealous gate attendant at a provincial park, he can decide whether he/she would like to follow it up with their big boss (who wrote the letter) being a park rule copies of legislation would not be any real asset. that said I have not had to use it (yet) as all the employees seem to be aware of the rules (and the exceptions to) they are to try and enforce.

I have heard other campers in person mention a few private parks that won't allow outside firewood in, I just don't write that stuff down as I typically don't go to private parks. And "Dodgeguy" on here has mentioned his experiences.

Why would any of us lie about that, I have no reason to lie about my experience with the one and only private park I have stayed at in over 10 years, nor about what other people have said, it serves no purpose to me

http://hapar.wordpress.com/park-rules/

http://halfmoonlakeresort.ca/about-us/parkrules

http://www.owensound.ca/campground-rules

http://www.bingemans.com/camping/pdfs/reservation_policy_2013.pdf

http://www.yonderhillcampground.ca/rules.html

http://www.leduclionsrvpark.com/park-rules.php

http://rvatlakeview.com/Park_Rules.html

http://www.strawberrypark.net/rules-regulations-faq/#.UjcK6sasg18

http://www.orocamping.ca/rules.htm

http://www.dogwoodspringscampground.com/park-rules/

http://www.graniteridge.com/rules.htm

http://sycamorervresort.com/sitemap_rules.htm

http://pineacresresort.com/policies/

shall I continue? that came on the first couple pages of a simple search, "park rules, no outside firewood" that brought up many many pages of results, I am sure to alter a couple search words a little would bring up even more, and those are the parks that actually note it on their website.



the sky is blue (when its not cloudy)

thanks for the links, all of those places are private CG but also seem to be more resort style than most, although I am not familiar with any of them they look like I would stay in any of them… but you are right it’s in their rules and advertised on their web site…
I guess things are still changing, although I still don’t see a band wagon, it seems more like private, public cooperation to me and I fully expect to run into this even though every place I have been to lately has had burn Bans or allows locally bought wood to be brought in so far…
As I said it seems to be both public and private…
Indiana says
There are 140 known pests and pathogens that can be moved from place to place in firewood. We all have a responsibility to conserve our Hoosier forests, so the DNR has implemented a new firewood management rule that will be in place on all of our properties this year.
We also know how important campfires are to each of you when you camp, so we’ve included ways that you can still bring firewood in with you.
You can bring firewood into a state park, reservoir, state forest or state fish and wildlife area if
?It is kiln-dried scrap lumber.
?It is from your home or other location in Indiana and has the bark removed. (Ideally, ½ inch of sapwood beneath the bark will also be removed.)
?It is purchased from a department store, grocery store, gas station, etc. and bears a USDA compliance stamp.
?It is purchased from a local firewood vendor outside the property and has a state compliance stamp with it.
?It is purchased from the property campstore or on-site firewood vendor and has a state compliance stamp.

They also provide certified vendors name and contact information…
Find a firewood vendor who has a compliance agreement. Click here for a list of vendors http://www.in.gov/dnr/entomolo/files/ep-CA_firewood.pdf


Michigan
4. Are you saying I can only take pine to burn at a state park?
You cannot bring ash firewood onto or into a state park anywhere in Michigan. You also cannot take any deciduous firewood from a MDA quarantined area.
5. Does this rule apply if I am going to a state forest campground?
Yes. You cannot bring ash firewood onto any DNR managed lands including state parks, forest campgrounds, recreation areas, access sites and forests.

Maine
IMPORTANT: MA State Parks prohibits the transportation of firewood into or out of MA State Park Campground facilities. Arriving customers must get their firewood at the campground. Firewood is available at tthe Camp Store and pricing may vary from other DCR campgrounds. Transportation of firewood into or out of MA State Park Campground facilities may result in eviction, or substantial fine, or both.

Minnesota?
To preserve Harmony Park and maintain a safe camping experience, fire rules must be in effect.
Firewood – No outside firewood allowed.
In order to curtail the spread of tree disease, all firewood must be purchased from Harmony Park.

VIRGINIA STATE PARKS
Fires must be attended at all times and extinguished when left. Firewood is generally available for purchase at the park. Please leave firewood at home as a firewood quarantine has been established for the following localities: counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Fauquier, Loudoun and Prince William; and the entire cities of Alexandria, Fairfax City, Falls Church, Manassas and Manassas Park. It is unlawful to transport firewood from these localities. Firewood can harbor insect pests, such as the emerald ash borer. The transport of infested firewood has been identified as a leading cause in the introduction of harmful forest insects into un-infested forest areas. Help keep our parks pest-free by leaving your firewood at home .

So it seems this bandwagon isn’t really a bandwagon as much as it is compliance and concern for their investment in their park…

4’x8’s16” may incorrectly be referred to as a cord by some or around where I lived it was ticipally and incorrectly refered to as a face or face cord… since it would take 3 for those stacks to make up a cord I guess you wood has those golden leaves…:B
But wait three 4x8 stacks of pine at $50 ($150/cord)… I doubt I could give it away unless I delivered it to and I’m not even sure then… I know I wouldn’t use it except maybe in an outside burn barrel for some heat at a work site, but I wouldn’t use it in my campfire to cook on or a furnace I heat with… around here most people pay $20 to $25 dollars for a level pick-up or a utility trailer load of fire wood…

Ask your classmate… the only way anyone could make any money in fire wood is if he’s already been paid to remove it or has a large supply of scrap like slab wood… that’s why most firewood retailers are tree service people first…

I don't bother with the whole wood issue, we use a propane fire pit.

We usually only camp in warmer areas so the propane fire gives the feel of the fire without the smoke and without the bug issue.

your trees must have gold leafs,,,, LOL!

around here you can buy pine as low as $50 per face cord(4 feet x 8 feet x 16 inches) typically refereed to as "a cord" (not to be mistaken for a bush cord or what is considered to be a real cord 4'x4'x8') hardwood mix depending on the dealer $70 to $80,,, to as high as $100 if you live in a city for a face cord. (+a delivery charge) perhaps your pricing is for a real cord or bush cord, around these parts its a little different how its advertised and sold.
yes I deal with firewood a fair bit as I heat my house and shop with it from mid november to march, have an old classmate that owns a tree maintenance service in the area who also sells,,,firewood, go figure that one, cuts trees down (gets paid) sells the wood (gets paid)
mostly I go out and cut and dry my own firewood for my house, but occasionally do a little trading that nets me a truckload or 2.

the bundles or bags typical here you could fill about 50 from a face cord $8 x 50,,, or even the low end price of about $6.50 x 50

capitalism is great, and I will exercise my right to shop for the best price, and won't allow someone to rob my wallet through a self created monopoly

oh the letter I have was a result of an inquiry to clarify their rules, the intention of having it is as said encase I encounter an overzealous gate attendant at a provincial park, he can decide whether he/she would like to follow it up with their big boss (who wrote the letter) being a park rule copies of legislation would not be any real asset. that said I have not had to use it (yet) as all the employees seem to be aware of the rules (and the exceptions to) they are to try and enforce.

I have heard other campers in person mention a few private parks that won't allow outside firewood in, I just don't write that stuff down as I typically don't go to private parks. And "Dodgeguy" on here has mentioned his experiences.

Why would any of us lie about that, I have no reason to lie about my experience with the one and only private park I have stayed at in over 10 years, nor about what other people have said, it serves no purpose to me

http://hapar.wordpress.com/park-rules/

http://halfmoonlakeresort.ca/about-us/parkrules

http://www.owensound.ca/campground-rules

http://www.bingemans.com/camping/pdfs/reservation_policy_2013.pdf

http://www.yonderhillcampground.ca/rules.html

http://www.leduclionsrvpark.com/park-rules.php

http://rvatlakeview.com/Park_Rules.html

http://www.strawberrypark.net/rules-regulations-faq/#.UjcK6sasg18

http://www.orocamping.ca/rules.htm

http://www.dogwoodspringscampground.com/park-rules/

http://www.graniteridge.com/rules.htm

http://sycamorervresort.com/sitemap_rules.htm

http://pineacresresort.com/policies/

shall I continue? that came on the first couple pages of a simple search, "park rules, no outside firewood" that brought up many many pages of results, I am sure to alter a couple search words a little would bring up even more, and those are the parks that actually note it on their website.



the sky is blue (when its not cloudy)

relaxin wrote:
bonnie lake resort, was 4 years ago in july for 4 nights

go ahead and rat me out,,, come on call them,,,, ooooo maybe they won't let me camp there again,, ooooooo.

As I said I normally don't waist my money staying at private parks so my list will be short, the others may have more to add
as for the places I do frequent,, provincial, national and conservation areas(in On.), they all allow kiln dried lumber. pretty much all of them have it as standard procedure to ask when you register "did you bring any fire wood?" and my answer is always "yes, its kiln dried lumber scraps,,, would you like to inspect it?" the majority smile and say "no sir enjoy your stay" . only a couple have ever came out to look, and were happy with what they saw.

ohhh yes I do carry,,,in my trailer neatly folded in an envelope,,, a letter from the superintendent of Ont parks stating kiln dried lumber is acceptable in all the provincial parks in Ont,,, just in case I do get a wise a$$ gate attendant.

Now,,, no I do not believe any one should be transporting raw logs,,,,, or raw logs as firewood between different areas spreading possible infestations further, thats said I call B S as to the cost of a bag of wood when a cord can be bought for $50 to $80 dollars depending on where you are, when farmer john sells you a bundle for the same or lower 2x the size the bag the park sells you for $7 or $8 and its dry, and he lives 1/2 a mile down the road from the park.
but hey thats private enterprise you can charge as much as you want for whatever you want to sell, just don't expect anyone to buy it if its to high. around here we can buy wood in an area such as from farmer John and use it in the park, you are best to get a receipt from farmer john or at the least write down his address, and in all the Gov parks that is acceptable, however in some like the one I mentioned they will not even allow that, and other private parks are jumping on that band wagon as well,,,,,, another reason I won't waste my money at a private park,,, like I said once the foot is in the door they will go for more, like ice, or bait, maybe marshmallows, someone will figure out a way. greed is human nature.

before you bark at me like a little chiwawa about coming to your state parks and that letter is no good or about me getting whatever cause the rules are different there, how your gonna call Obama himself and rat me out,,,, read what I wrote,,,, carefully,,,, I said provincial national and conservation >>> (in On.)<<< If I plan a trip elsewhere I would inquire about the local laws and respect as such, as I do here, and I doubt I would even attempt to cross the boarder with a restricted material,such as firewood of any kind.
But don't really give a rats whatever about some private park who thinks they are beyond the law,,,, but I usually avoid them anyways.

I don’t know if you are barking at me like a Chihuahua, (apparently so with the hilarious oooo’s) if so, read what I wrote carefully to,,,, very carefully,,,, :)

I think I have linked an example of a way that you can bring wood from home and it be a legal move you that you can self-certify it in most states… check you state for a similar downloadable form…

I also provided a link showing the US federal agreement made by commercial carriers of logs and wood products… although each state may have different and even stricter laws…

Buying local is a great idea and if you are not a local your idea of a receipt showing the purchase was local, is a great idea…
I’m sure the letter you carry is impressive even though I have no idea if it is an enforceable document, but it should carry at least the same weight as a copy of the legislation stating the same…

“I call B S as to the cost of a bag of wood when a cord can be bought for $50 to $80 dollars depending on where you are”

now what year was it that you bought a Cord of wood for $50??? Was it at a bankruptcy auction at the local firewood processors site??? :B
I think the last time I saw a true cord below the $80, gasoline was still below $1.60 a US gal..
Quick search on price shows don’t know what the average, high, or low price might be in these areas…

PREMIUM Ash/Maple Mix $240 cord, free local delivery – OR…

1/4 Cord = $185 - 1/2 Cord =$285 - Full Cord=$385, picked up at site TX…
Available by the log: $1.25 per piece. Short length firewood also available = 8" to 14"
1/4 Chord = $225.
May include: Oak, Pecan, Hickory, Mesquite, Ash, Maple, Elm

2012 Prices: GA
U-load/U-haul price - $180 per cord, $90 per 1/2 cord $60 per 1/3 cord or buy by the piece
20 pieces for $10, 50 pieces for $20, 100 pieces for $35, 200 pieces for $55,
Delivery charge is $50 - Delivery is dumped, not stacked. Add $40 per cord to stack.


one park named HH KOA and they note it on their website... that is quite the band wagon so far...:B

westend wrote:

camperforlife wrote:

westend wrote:

camperforlife wrote:

Water-Bug wrote:
I recently dropped off my northern lower penninsula of Michigan firewood, at the rest stop just south of the Macanaw Bridge, (the supposed boundry for transporting wood) and then followed a semi load of raw logs across the bridge. I guess that if you are BIG business you're special. (Or at least your logs are).

And..........all those ships off loading from overseas have pallets made from non kiln dried lumber and all kinds of bugs in them and have no restrictions about where they are transported. That is where most of the invasive pests originated.

I don't think you know all that for certain. Have you looked at pallets lately? I see many of them from overseas with an inspection stamp. The inspection stamp gives information about how the pallet is treated, i.e. bromide, kiln, etc..

Yep I know that for a fact. I'm currently in a Masters Naturalist program and that was topic for discussion this past week.

Did anybody in that session mention ISPM 15?
I'm really not in disagreement with you as known vectors of a lot of invasive species have come through international shipping. I would probably have a long history of Lake Trout fishing if it wasn't for the lamprey.

Yep, discussed in length. So was the fact that less than 8% are inspected and violations are rampant. It's also illegal to sell counterfeit Gucci handbags but I can find you one pretty easily and they were most likely shipped in on one of those infested pallets or in an infested crate. The point is there are lots of regulations on the books but no funding to back them up. Almost every invasive pest we either introduced intentionally or they were imported in packaging.

camperforlife wrote:
I don't mind leaving firewood behind. I don't mind paying $5 for a bundle of wood. What I do mind is campgrounds like the Hocking Hills KOA that bans all wood but theirs and then sells you wood that will not burn. The whole place looked like a huge smoke smudge pot.

Worst result ever, last month: dude at the next site got the last bundle. He had hay fever and didn't notice anything funny...we soon found out why it was the last bundle: someone had used it as a urinal! :E That was FOUL!

I bring my own wood: scrap lumber from pallets. (We throw away a few broken ones every day at work.) There's no bark, most I burn when I camp are pine that have cleared through Customs. (They are Heineken beer pallets.)

bonnie lake resort, was 4 years ago in july for 4 nights

go ahead and rat me out,,, come on call them,,,, ooooo maybe they won't let me camp there again,, ooooooo.

As I said I normally don't waist my money staying at private parks so my list will be short, the others may have more to add
as for the places I do frequent,, provincial, national and conservation areas(in On.), they all allow kiln dried lumber. pretty much all of them have it as standard procedure to ask when you register "did you bring any fire wood?" and my answer is always "yes, its kiln dried lumber scraps,,, would you like to inspect it?" the majority smile and say "no sir enjoy your stay" . only a couple have ever came out to look, and were happy with what they saw.

ohhh yes I do carry,,,in my trailer neatly folded in an envelope,,, a letter from the superintendent of Ont parks stating kiln dried lumber is acceptable in all the provincial parks in Ont,,, just in case I do get a wise a$$ gate attendant.

Now,,, no I do not believe any one should be transporting raw logs,,,,, or raw logs as firewood between different areas spreading possible infestations further, thats said I call B S as to the cost of a bag of wood when a cord can be bought for $50 to $80 dollars depending on where you are, when farmer john sells you a bundle for the same or lower 2x the size the bag the park sells you for $7 or $8 and its dry, and he lives 1/2 a mile down the road from the park.
but hey thats private enterprise you can charge as much as you want for whatever you want to sell, just don't expect anyone to buy it if its to high. around here we can buy wood in an area such as from farmer John and use it in the park, you are best to get a receipt from farmer john or at the least write down his address, and in all the Gov parks that is acceptable, however in some like the one I mentioned they will not even allow that, and other private parks are jumping on that band wagon as well,,,,,, another reason I won't waste my money at a private park,,, like I said once the foot is in the door they will go for more, like ice, or bait, maybe marshmallows, someone will figure out a way. greed is human nature.

before you bark at me like a little chiwawa about coming to your state parks and that letter is no good or about me getting whatever cause the rules are different there, how your gonna call Obama himself and rat me out,,,, read what I wrote,,,, carefully,,,, I said provincial national and conservation >>> (in On.)<<< If I plan a trip elsewhere I would inquire about the local laws and respect as such, as I do here, and I doubt I would even attempt to cross the boarder with a restricted material,such as firewood of any kind.
But don't really give a rats whatever about some private park who thinks they are beyond the law,,,, but I usually avoid them anyways.

Parks didn’t make the rule and who knows what their cost is for the wood or where they got it from… do you really think their supplier thinks he should discount what he can get for his wood because you don’t want to pay for it… isn’t exploiting the market conditions to their benefit what the company selling the firewood vendor his saws, gasoline and oil is doing and that effects what he needs and wants for his product…

The prices may be high in your opinion but I can assure you no one is getting big bonuses or retiring from their firewood profits…

What some of you have called good and dry fire wood has money, time, space, and sweat invested for a long time and depending on the operation has each piece gets handled 6 to 8 times from forest to storage to retail sale to user and is transported 3 to 4 times from the forest to storage to CG or wood retailer near the CG to the fire ring…

Most of the prices I have seen would be more than a bargain for good dry wood… they would guarantee the seller wouldn’t be there many years…

Here is one fact… the act of maliciously spreading any of the know pest by someone’s selfish and uncaring act risking the betterment of the forest and my or my families present or future enjoyment perceived or real is so great, I am more than willing to report any violations that become known or suspected be me… and I am willing to volunteer my time and travel cost to anywhere in the country to testify against any violators I report…

Only if necessary, I would sadly support a ban on all wood fires if voluntary compliance isn’t achievable by the camping community…

I have never seen or been anywhere that didn’t allow any clean or certified clean wood from being brought into a CG… and almost every CG I have been to or drive by has local wood vendors selling local wood…

How come no one is naming the CG’s that allow no wood to brought in the CG even kiln dried wood??? how common is this really??? It seems pretty isolated to me…





If you bring wood from home and it a legal move you can self certify it in most states I believe…. Like CT…
http://www.ct.gov/deep/cwp/view.asp?A=2697&Q=508886

In-State Firewood Transportation
Self Issued Certificate of Origin

When transporting untreated firewood within Connecticut, you must keep a signed copy of this completed document with you.
This Self-Issued Certificate is for cut and split firewood or wood intended to be cut and split and used as fuel for heating purposes.
IMPORTANT: NO FIREWOOD MAY LEAVE THE PERIMETER OF FAIRFIELD, HARTFORD, LITCHFIELD AND NEW HAVEN COUNTIES (“AFFECTED COUNTIES”) WITHOUT a permit confirming treatment issued by the Connecticut Agricultural Experiment Station (CAES). Firewood passing through the affected counties is subject to additional State and Federal regulations. Contact CAES at 203-974-8474 prior to moving firewood out of or through an affected county.

Part I: Transporter Information
Transporter Name:
Mailing Address:
City/Town: State: Zip Code:
Home, Business or Cell Phone:
E-mail:

Part II: Source of Firewood
Street Address:
City/Town:
County (refer to county map):
NOTE: If the source of the firewood is in an affected county, then additional regulations apply. Contact CAES at 203-974-8474 prior to moving firewood out of or through an affected county.
Zip Code:

Part III: Destination of Firewood Being Transported
Street Address:
City/Town:
County (refer to county map):
Zip Code:
Approximate Volume Being Transported (In Cords):

Part IV: Transporter Certification
The transporter must sign this part and keep this completed signed copy when transporting firewood.

“I have personally examined and am familiar with the information submitted in this document and all attachments thereto, and I certify that based on reasonable investigation, including my inquiry of the individuals responsible for obtaining the information, the submitted information is true, accurate and complete to the best of my knowledge and belief.

I understand that firewood shall not be moved into Connecticut without meeting the requirements of section 22-84-5g of the Regulation of Connecticut State Agencies (RCSA) or out of a Connecticut quarantined county WITHOUT a permit confirming treatment issued by the Connecticut Agricultural Experiment Station. Firewood passing through an affected county is subject to additional State and Federal regulations. I further understand that this Self-Issued Certificate is for cut and split firewood or wood intended to be cut and split and used for heating purposes.

Any person or employee or agent of that person, who violates any provision of section 22-84-5g of the RCSA, shall be subject to enforcement as authorized by section 22-84 of the General Statutes or section 22-84-5e of the RCSA.”

Signature of Transporter
Date
Name of Transporter (print or type)


This certificate is valid for one month from the date signed.
Retain this document for your personal records for 365 days after self issuance.

For questions, please contact CAES at CAES.StateEntomologist@ct.gov or 203-974-8474 or the DEEP Forestry Division at deep.forestry@ct.gov or 860-424-3630.





http://www.aphis.usda.gov/plant_health/plant_pest_info/emerald_ash_b/downloads/compliance_agreement/EAB_CA_Template_1.6.pdf

FEDERAL COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT…

most States have their own that can be even more strict but not less than the fed requirements…

5. I / WE AGREE TO THE FOLLOWING:
This establishment will ship regulated ash material from a Federal quarantine area ONLY after applicable treatments/ mitigations are completed at the establishment’s expense. Explanations and schedules are detailed in attached addendum. Regulated articles that have undergone an approved treatment or mitigating process may be shipped throughout the year. This establishment will ensure that each shipment of regulated material moved interstate is accompanied by a completed Federally issued Certificate or Federally issued Limited Permit. All Federal forms are accountable and will be handled according to USDA requirements.

This establishment will handle the following regulated article(s): (check all applicable)
Ash logs
Ash lumber (green)
Hardwood firewood (non-coniferous)
Ash chips/ mulch
Wood packing material constructed with ash
Other (specify)_________________

Treatment/ Mitigation (check all applicable)
1.Remove the bark and an additional ½ inch of wood.
2.Kiln sterilization
3.Fumigation
4.Heat Treatment
5. Chip or Compost
6. Safeguarding (transport)
7. Facility outside of quarantine area
8. ISPM-15 for ash lumber in wood packing material.

dodge guy wrote:
The problem as i mentioned is that some campgrounds are saying no to even scrap lumber! Hmmmm! I only see one reason for it$$$$$$$

yeppers
when they won't allow wood that is safe, it is very obvious
next in the quest for cash will be Ice, only their ice can be used in their park, cause its water don't you know to single substance that across the history of mankind has taken millions upon millions of lives.

THEN once they have control of the ice some may even attempt to monopolize food, hey you might be bringing in an unwanted pest in that apple.
after all theaters do not want you to bring in your own snacks, the ones around here strictly forbid it.


I went to a park up by huntsville a couple years ago,, it was a rare occasion that I went to a privately owned park, I normally don't waste my money at them. but they insisted I had to buy their firewood, I brought my own anyways, bought 2 bags of theirs and it was wet and some still green, so I kept mine hidden in a couple large totes and discretely got out what I needed when I needed it, even with my dry wood their wet******still smoldered popped and sizzled for a while before it would actually stay lit on its own.

that to me is like when you rent a house and the landlord says you have to buy groceries at the store that he also owns

wny_pat wrote:

Water-Bug wrote:
I recently dropped off my northern lower penninsula of Michigan firewood, at the rest stop just south of the Macanaw Bridge, (the supposed boundry for transporting wood) and then followed a semi load of raw logs across the bridge. I guess that if you are BIG business you're special. (Or at least your logs are).

Current Michigan rules: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/MDA_EAB_Quarantine_WhereAs_111851_7.pdf. That load probably carried a Certification of Inspection, or was wood that did not require inspection.

How do you inspect a load of raw lumber for a pest that bores under the bark of trees? I don't think there is an effective, economical method of treating a semi truck full of raw logs. If there were, they'd be treating firewood.