German Resolution to ban ICE engines by 2030 passes

Here you go. They can run as much as 45 grand but no permitting, no cables, no digging, just drop it on the ground. Interesting.

http://www.envisionsolar.com/solar-powered-ev-charging-stations-heading-san-francisco/

I think some should read the article closer perhaps.

This is a RESOLUTION that calls on the EU to adopt a ban. It is not a law and has no real effect.

Germans love their cars at least as much as Americans do. They are not letting this happen without a fight.

I would relax. Your motorhome dreams are still secure.

gbopp wrote:

Maybe you should delete your post before someone from the EPA reads it and thinks it is a good idea. :B

Too late, in fact too late before it was posted.. One state is already working to ban internal combustion engines.

Or so I'm told. You can guess which state, but well, they are progressive,,, but then so am I (And then it is the state in which I was born, not raised, but born).

fulltimedaniel wrote:
I think some should read the article closer perhaps.

This is a RESOLUTION that calls on the EU to adopt a ban. It is not a law and has no real effect.

Germans love their cars at least as much as Americans do. They are not letting this happen without a fight.

I would relax. Your motorhome dreams are still secure.

Yep. This is a resolution but there is a grass roots push by the public for clean air initiatives. I would be surprised if there isn't something more concrete in place within the next couple years do automotive manufacturers can react accordingly. Most manufacturers are already going down the electric vehicle road as no one wants to be left building the slowest, clunkiest and most obsolete gas burners on the road. There will be a market for gassers for a while yet but most who have spent some time behind the wheel of a good quality electric vehicle is a convert and would never go back to gas. The love that Germans have for cars is what will kill the ICE car.

time2roll wrote:

Mr.Mark wrote:
Well, I just bought solar for my house in Southern California. Installation will be in May.

My utility bill should be zero with 63 solar roof panels. I will be grandfathered in at .16 a kWh. Any surplus will be purchased at .025 kWh (highway robbery) LOL!

They are expecting an eight year payback, then it will be gravy!

I did ask the sales guy if we would have sufficient solar for an electric car and he said yes. He knew exactly how much power would be needed for such.


MM.

Holy moley 63 panels? I have 12 panels(3kW dc), produce about 35% of my usage and due to the magic of TOU net metering (SCE) I come very close to a zero annual bill.

We are getting the most up to date solar panels available (360 watts each). Our house is all electric with air conditioning/heat pumps (26 tons of air with 7 units). We only use natural gas for the fireplaces and pool/jacuzzi heat.

My $2K per month summer utility bill will be zero...yeee ha! If we were not locked in to .16 kWh for 25 yrs., our 8.3 yr. pay out would be faster as it will be going up to .29 kWh in the upper tier. And, we always seemed to reach tier three super fast. (hot in the summer in the desert!).

MM.

Re the solar parking. Found a pic. Kinda cool.

J and A, you will see across from you at the high school that they have solar parking. What a neat way to kill two birds with one stone!

MM.

Two points: electric cars are way more fun to drive than ICE cars since they are lighter and much more torquey at low rpms and the infrastructure in the EU is in much much better shape than in the US. The differences are visible as soon as you walk off the plane into the airport and continues on smooth highways, very very fast internet, excellent commuter and long distance rail systems, etc. Nothing at all like what you see here.......

Mr.Mark wrote:
J and A, you will see across from you at the high school that they have solar parking. What a neat way to kill two birds with one stone!

MM.

Good morning Mr Mark. I am currently in BC Canada (just got back from California) Where abouts is this highschool?

Cheers.

John

Mr.Mark wrote:
Well, I just bought solar for my house in Southern California. Installation will be in May.

My utility bill should be zero with 63 solar roof panels. I will be grandfathered in at .16 a kWh. Any surplus will be purchased at .025 kWh (highway robbery) LOL!

They are expecting an eight year payback, then it will be gravy!

I seem to hear that eight year payback comment a lot. Our neighbor quoted the same payback time-frame regarding the recent solar installation on his home here in the further north Bay Area.

How much is your monthly payment going to be on that solar installation until it's paid for?

I have a couple of other related questions:

- How come PG&E charges MORE to me if I opt in for one of their plans to provide part of my power from renewable sources? Shouldn't renewable power sourcing be a CHEAPER source of power than typical fossil or nuclear power sources?

- I wonder how long PG&E can keep maintaining their electrical grid with less and less money coming in each month because folks are replacing PG&E power with solar power from their roofs? Keep in mind that the solar grid is still necessary because most home rooftop solar systems only pump energy back into an existing wired grid. Very few homes have solar panels plus the huge inverters plus the huge battery banks such that they actually no longer need any external source of power in all kinds of weather. I've heard that in some (many?) areas a newly built residence cannot NOT be connected to a commercial power grid and still pass final inspection - so a power grid for residences is still required with somehow less and less money coming in to power companies for them to expand and maintain the grid. What this could mean is higher and higher power usage rates - plus higher and higher "grid maintenance surcharges" for all - being charged by power companies even though customers might have solar panels on their roofs.

This is still relatively early in general solar power over large geographical areas, so the situation appears to be workable for local rooftop solar (without inverters and batteries) merely feeding power back into an existing grid. However I see substantial issues going forward, such that: Either users need expensive full-blown panel/inverter/battery systems at their point of use, or a pervasive grid needs to still be left in place fed with power from huge commercial solar and wind farms (and hydro-electric plants) replacing existing fossil plants and nuclear plants.