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bsbeedub
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Aug 29, 2015

Payload rant (sort of)

I have a friend with a 2011 F250. I don't know a lot of details but it has the diesel for that year and 3.31 gears. He was looking to buy a fifth wheel after previously owning a 35 foot TT. Unfortunately he is one of those RV owners that doesn't know a lot about his truck's capability.
He told me what he wanted so I looked it up to check the info on it and found it had a 2485 lb pin weight. I told him to make sure he had plenty of towing capacity AND payload capacity and that they were two entirely different things. I also told him 3/4 tons are beasts but can't tow everything. He didn't know the payload so I asked him to look in the door jamb for the sticker. He took a pic and sent it to me and his payload capacity is a grand total of 2113 lb! I explained to him that by the time him and his wife were in the truck, stuff in the truck bed including the hitch, and stuff in the bedroom of the 5er (right over the king pin) he could be over 3000lb.

He talked with a guy from his Ford dealership and they said that "you have plenty of towing capacity." (That statement is actually true.) He asked the wrong question and got the wrong answer. He also has another friend that told him he would be fine because, again, he asked the wrong question and never told him about the door sticker. Of course the place where he bought the 5er never once asked him about payload capacity. I guess they assumed being a 3/4 ton it had plenty of it. How irresponsible can the salesperson be? But, as we all know, WE should know what the heck we're talking about.

He took possession of the new 5er and is ready to camp. I told him I was concerned for his truck and his safety but it fell on deaf ears because "no one else gave me reason for concern." You can lead a horse to water.......

One thing that surprises me is the low payload capacity. I thought 3/4 tons had about 3000 plus, give or take. With the limited info I have on the truck, can anyone tell me what would cause the capacity to be that low or is that pretty common?

37 Replies

  • The 350 comes with 4" vs. 2" spacer blocks under the rear springs. These can be upgraded for about $40 a piece. Then you need longer U bolts so another $25. The main spring packs are actually the same. The only difference is an upper overload spring is standard on a SRW 350. If you friend has the camper package then he already has this spring as it adds it to a 250. If does not, he can add the overload spring but would be better off doing air bags which achieve the exact same thing but offer adjustability.

    As everyone else said, other than those to differences, the 250 and SRW 350 are physically 100% identical. The 250 is de-rated on paper and the door jamb sticker to cater to a different market segment.

    PS: If your friend doesn't want to go to his dealer for parts, Ready Lift makes a kit with everything you need to go from 2" to 4".

    Ready Lift Kit
  • As said above it is a simple math problem. Not at all on the salesman who sold the truck, but entirely on the purchaser to do the research and know what they are buying. A salesman is there to push a product and get a return on investment for his employer.

    Need to take the truck to a scale loaded as if going camping minus the 5th wheel and weigh it. Take into account the axle weight limitations as well.

    I wouldn't worry too much about pushing a tad over the GVWR.
  • rhagfo's avatar
    rhagfo
    Explorer III
    gbopp wrote:
    spoon059 wrote:
    Lynnmor wrote:
    The only real difference between the F250 and single rear wheel F350 is the springs and spring blocks. Just replace these items.

    And the F350 badge... all else is the same.

    How much more do they charge for the springs, spring blocks and emblem when you buy the F-350 :@


    Not a lot if you are talking SRW, the main reason 250/2500's exist is taxes and registration cost and rules in some states threat anything over 10,000# GVWR as a commercial vehicle.
  • spoon059 wrote:
    Lynnmor wrote:
    The only real difference between the F250 and single rear wheel F350 is the springs and spring blocks. Just replace these items.

    And the F350 badge... all else is the same.

    How much more do they charge for the springs, spring blocks and emblem when you buy the F-350 :@
  • Lynnmor wrote:
    The only real difference between the F250 and single rear wheel F350 is the springs and spring blocks. Just replace these items.

    And the F350 badge... all else is the same.
  • The only real difference between the F250 and single rear wheel F350 is the springs and spring blocks. Just replace these items.
  • GVWR minus GVW equals Payload

    Diesel engines are heavy....they increase GVW lowering payload.

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