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MX-RV
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Apr 05, 2013

Coleman 3 burner &rvq

I see there's a similar post today discussing this but my questions are a little different and I didn't want to hyjack someone else's post.

When growing up we had a htt with a single 20lb it had a quick connect DS from the reg for the portable fridge. Dad also had 2 quick connects added us from the reg for a 1lb tank styleBBQ on a 10ft umbilical cord and a 1lb tank style Coleman 3 burner stove both have small inline regulators in them. When the htt was sold dad removed the BBQ and stove from the trailer and kept the hoses. I now have a tt with twin 30's and I would like to add the required quick connects to my system or modify the current hoses to the appliances to run off the pre-plumbed rvq port. Is it possible to pull high pressure off the selector before the reg so I can run the selector as its ment to or do I need to pull my connections off one side or the other of the selector or both one on each and if I empty a tank have to switch sides. The other part of that might be to remove the regs from the hoses and plug into the rvq port but I've heard that doesn't have enough pressure to run rvq's products let alone a stove or BBQ that's ment to stand alone has anyone tried this is this a viable option. The stove and BBQ are fantastic fast and hot as they are I'd hate to screw that up by not providing enough pressure.

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  • ok so upon further investigation I have discovered my setup is designed to be on the high pressure side which isn't a problem except that when I talked to my local dealer he told me the current fittings I have are no longer legal here in Canada and he would not install them, and recommended I not install them. He did recommend placing an add-a-t adapter on my tank and buying a new adapter hose.

    I'm not happy with these answers so I'm wondering if anyone knows of a supplier who sells the 1"-20 fittings with 1/4"mpt male and female fittings on them. My plan is to take one of the tank pigtails off the regulator attach it to my 1/4" mpt cross with 2 females across from each other and 2 male 1/4"mpt nipples and reattach the pigtal/cross back to the regulator then add 2X1"-20 male fittings to the cross and take my quick connect male nipples off the hoses leaving 1/4" mpt's that can now be adapted to 1-20 females. I have been searching via google for 1/4"mpt-1-20 fittings and have found several crimp on but no 1/4"mpt fittings. does this seem like a plausible option and do you have any suggestions for supply.

    thanks
  • Added a QD for my RVQ, and just tapped into the black iron portion with a "T" and then got a QD from CW and let me tell you they are proud of them. I think I paid like 35 bucks but it is a safety valve and was a fairly easy install.
  • First, thanks for the Sturbis site, red31. Looks like a great place for hard to find gas stuff.

    MX-RV, some of the problems you're hearing about may be due to flow limiters installed in the system, either on purpose or as a result of other requirements. For example, some of the Sturbis fittings shown in red31's post have flow limiters. The green handwheels all are configured for this, and other fittings or spuds may be. A close examination of that green fitting will show that it is designed for a certain BTU rating, If you demand more than that flow, it will set and limit the gas flow to just a very little bit or none. These can be reset by closing all valves and reopening them slowly, but if the same conditions occur, they will set again. Higher flow handwheels are available at some sources, but they are different color, grey and red I believe. In addition, many, if not all spuds (the round nosed piece that goes into the tank or other fitting with or without a rubber gasket on the tip) are also usually flow limiting. They too have a stamped BTU rating on them if you check them closely. Finally, some tanks with the overfill devices (tri-cornered shutoff handle) have a flow limiter as part of the valve. According to Manchester Tank engineers, this was a serendipitous result of the tank valve design. Not all tank valves are this way, and if you find a valve with the word ITALY stamped into the valve right under the handle, these do not have the limiter. I know either valve is permissible in the US, but don't know about Canada.

    I found all this out when I wanted to add a system where I could supply LP to my Tiffin from 20 or 30 pound bottles when I boondocked, and found I couldn't run the two heaters with the "wrong" bottles or the other flow limiters. My solution was to get 20 pound bottles at my local Lowes (they had the ITALY ones) and to drill out all the spuds and handwheels. Some may decry my method of going around the "safety features" inherent in the system, but that was my choice and I will deal with any consequences. By the way, I've been operating this modified system on 3 Class A's for well over 5 years. Works fine.

    The one thing I would suggest, however, is that if you use quick disconnects you get the type needed for your gas pressure (high or low, they're different depending on which side of the regulator your working) and back up the QD with a shutoff valve on the pressure side. There's always a chance they may leak some on disconnect.

    Good luck on your mod.

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