Michelin "90,000 miles" Tires? Really?

Yes I believe you can get 90,000 from those tires. Drive moderately on forgiving highways close to max pressure and regular rotation for best results. Existing tires had better be wearing flat across the tread proving good alignment. Driving mostly around town, rough roads and only the door jam rated pressure I would have doubts. If driven just 8,000 miles a year good luck.

Yes warranties assume most of these vehicles will be traded before the tires are down to the wear bars.

Slownsy wrote:
As I have found out my Michelin MX2 only 30000miles of the 75000 advertised outside edges almost at limits and I thaght they were going to say I ran to low pressures but no they have slightly difrent wear even thou rotated at every 7500miles so no warenty, but as a goodwill gesture will sel me new with 25% discount, strangely com to exactly what I paid just over a year ago.
Frank.

That's what is happening to my Michelins. I bumped them up to the max 80# to work on my centers a little more. Ride is harsh. Guy that sell me tires told me to go to the Goodrich's because they won't do that and will last longer. I'll give them a try, they're cheaper any way.

As I have found out my Michelin MX2 only 30000miles of the 75000 advertised outside edges almost at limits and I thaght they were going to say I ran to low pressures but no they have slightly difrent wear even thou rotated at every 7500miles so no warenty, but as a goodwill gesture will sel me new with 25% discount, strangely com to exactly what I paid just over a year ago.
Frank.

Petroleum? Yukko!

The silicone spray I use does not have a petroleum carrier. It uses esters an alcohol based forumula. Silicone dielectric grease would be pricey but lasts a long time. The secret is to rub it hard into the sidewalls. Old man Kelley just about had a heart attack when I purchased a 35 lb bucket of silicone grease for the boat. Four miles of wire pass 130' through the length on the starboard conduits. When cheched in 2011 the wires were still slippery. We had to use a come-a-long to pull the wire. The 37- conductor 16-gauge is rubber insulated.

I'll treat the tires before they are mounted. But I keep petroleum of any kind far away from my tires.

I thought that silicone and any petroleum base product was bad for tires? From what I understand 303 protectant was the only thing good for tires.

ktmrfs wrote:
Part of the high mileage is that the mfg figure they will seldom need to eat any warranty claims. Why? well, first the are replacement tires, probably on a 3-5 old vehicle with 30-50K miles on it. Then you buy a set of tires with a 90K mileage warranty and don't read the fine print that says 90K miles OR 3years, sometimes 4 years. so how many folks will keep the vehicle long enough and drive enough miles/year (20K-30K) to end up with a mileage claim? IMHO Not very many. Those that do drive 20-30K miles/year are likely lots of highway miles that give better tread life than in town stop and go miles will.

I agree, they play the averages. However, in my case, they loose money. I owned my new 1983 Chevy truck until 2006. I bought my used 2005 Ford truck in 2011, still own it and probably will for another 10 - 15 years, probably until they come out with a diesel that doesn't need DEF.

My problem with tire warranties is I swap out tires summer and winter. So mileage recorded on the speedometer is half on the summer tires and half on the winter tires. If the tires have an age limitation like 3 - 4 years, I won't wear them out that way either since I'm using two sets of tires. So far I have a total of 52,000 miles on my two sets of tires and they'll last many more years.

Bill

ktmrfs wrote:
Part of the high mileage is that the mfg figure they will seldom need to eat any warranty claims. Why? well, first the are replacement tires, probably on a 3-5 old vehicle with 30-50K miles on it. Then you buy a set of tires with a 90K mileage warranty and don't read the fine print that says 90K miles OR 3years, sometimes 4 years. so how many folks will keep the vehicle long enough and drive enough miles/year (20K-30K) to end up with a mileage claim? IMHO Not very many. Those that do drive 20-30K miles/year are likely lots of highway miles that give better tread life than in town stop and go miles will.

While I cannot ever remember seeing any limit in YEARS on tire warranties I can honestly attest to the fact that when a tire company claims uber high mileage (60,000-90,000 miles) the PRICE of the tire goes through the roof.

For many years I bought Sears branded tires which were made by Michelin. Sears back then offered at no extra price road hazard and long mileage on the tires. First few rounds I managed to get new tires for less than $20 per tire when they wore out at less than half the warranty mileage.

Then Sears got cute and started to "sell" road hazard and mileage warranties as ADD ONs at the register.. They also reduced the prorating on the tires meaning you get much less per mile back on wear out. Then the cost was more than buying at a Michelin dealer..

I moved on and started buying tires at a real tire only shop that sells Michelin, BF Goodrich and a handful of other brands..

I quit buying Michelin branded tires, instead my tire dealer can get better pricing on BF Goodrich (which is owned by Michelin)..

Get some prices on BF Goodrich tires and don't bother with the high mile warranties, you most likely will not get much back.

As another note, some cars ARE very hard on tires, we had a 93 Mercury Cougar with 5.0.. fun car but extremely hard on tires.. The longest we could get out of a tire was around 20,000-30,000.. Didn't matter if on the front or rear, it just ate tires.

Mex, perhaps you should slap some "LTs" on your car, that will fix your problem :B

Let's assssssume to do the math: Five fifty dollar seven thousand mile tires or a single Michelin. The fifty dollar tires are dream tires 'cause they don't exist or anything else down here. Two hundred fifty dollars for thirty-five thousand miles- do I hear a "duh" or what?

Even if the Michelins gave me HALF of what they claim I'd be way ahead. Mounting and balancing ain't free and neither is hiring a taxi cause I was too stupid to try and resolve this when I had a chance.

Part of the high mileage is that the mfg figure they will seldom need to eat any warranty claims. Why? well, first the are replacement tires, probably on a 3-5 old vehicle with 30-50K miles on it. Then you buy a set of tires with a 90K mileage warranty and don't read the fine print that says 90K miles OR 3years, sometimes 4 years. so how many folks will keep the vehicle long enough and drive enough miles/year (20K-30K) to end up with a mileage claim? IMHO Not very many. Those that do drive 20-30K miles/year are likely lots of highway miles that give better tread life than in town stop and go miles will.

A few reviews on the Defender tire off the internet:

- I wanted a high mileage tire that would perform well and last. At 32,000 miles my "high" mileage tires are shot.
- ...they were good at first by by the 3rd year(upper midwest weather), they turned into rocks with miserable ride and poor traction in the wet...
- This is DEFINITELY not a low rolling resistance tire.
- These tires are noisy, air pressure difficulties. I had rotated and balanced and now braking is bad.

Some Continental and Goodyear tires have 80,000-mile tires and some Hankook and Kumho tires have 100,000-mile warranties. I wonder how reviews of them compare.

I'd report back in a year to see how they are holding up. ;)