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Dec 18, 2017

Solar question. Two panels same 24v , Series/parallel math

OK. So I have these panels. 280 watt LG,s I currently use one with an ecoworth 20 amp mppt. Max volts is 50 volts for controller hence one panel..

I can get 17 amps or so out of it normally...

This is panel specs..

Max Power Voltage (Vmp): 31.5 Volts
Max Power Current (Impp): 8.97 Amps
Open Circuit Voltage (Voc): 38.9 Volts
Short Circuit Current (Isc): 9.56 Amps

So I want to carry another panel and upgrade the mppt. I would assume I should get a 40 amp..

I was looking at the cheap tracers, or the renogy rover..

Since this is my first solar set up I have nothing to compare it too.. so here are some questions I have..

1. Does the one panel above specs dictate that 17 amps is about the most I can get from just the one? I figure IMPP at 9 amps im kind of doubling it because of the higher voltage panels and I only need 14.8 for bulk... I dont quite understand it somewhat.

( Side note: When I was 5300 ft in NC I was blasting out 19 plus amps at 5pm...lol. Panel showed 240 watts.



You see how late in the day it was... ( Balsam Mountain NC)



2. With that said if I get normally 16 amps then if I use 2 panels and get a new controller (40amp) then I should be looking at 32 amps or so.. Does this sound correct?

3. Here is the kicker and I probably will not know until I try.. I this I need to understand ..

If I have two identical panels as specs show above, Would I get more amps putting the two panels in series . Putting in series would get me closer to the max 100v the controllers could handle.

Or, Put two in parallel? Will that net me max amps since this method doubles the amps.

4. The other trouble is both controllers I believe have a max of 520 watts. ( Ill have 560 watts)

This large panels are portable. I am not interested in more then two panels...

Eventually I have a plan for flex panels on the roof with a separate charge controller. But that will be another time.
  • I’ll have to measure the wire. I believe it’s about 40 ft of 8 gauge. Would it be true series would get me charging earlier and better I low light conditions. ?
  • If you disregard losses through the wire, both series and parallel would result in the same amps going to the batteries. Each panel will produce about 9 amps at 31 volts. Parallel totals 18amps x 31volts = 558 watts. Series totals 9amps x 62volts = 558 watts. 558watts / 12volts = 46.5amps to the batteries. Connecting the panels in series will reduce the voltage loss in the wire from the panels to the controller. The result will be more amps delivered to the batteries. How much more will depend on your wire size and length of wire.
  • I dont think ill have a shading problem as I will be moving them around..

    Same exact panels/specs.

    so 62 volts and 9 amps with series through mppt will produce what amps out?

    31 volts, 18 amps in parallel through mppt will produce what amps out?

    Is it a wash that they will both produce @ max 560 watts?

    560 watts / by 13.5 volts = about 40 amps...

    series Say it was 66 volts.. 66v - 13.5v = 52 volts. What is the math equation to determine how many amps does the mppt convert the remaining 52 volts to?

    Parallel it would be 33-13.5 = 19 volts left. But 18 amps... Whats the math...

    I just dont get it... Using the above #'s as an example..

    Or can we say it this way... What configuration will produce the most wattage... 560 watts / 13.5v = 41 amps...

    After all in the above pic in my first post, with one panel I was producing 240 watts @ 12.5 volts = 19.2 amps...
  • I would be inclined to put the two panels in parallel. If two panels are in series, your current will drop to the output of the lower panel. If even a few cells are in shade the current will drop quite a bit.
  • Two in parallel is the same voltage but double the current.
    Two in series is double the voltage with the same current as one.
    Either way gives the same capacity.

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