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Snowman9000
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Nov 06, 2017

Testing electric brakes, Update.

I want to test out the electrical side of our fivers brakes. I read an article giving the max amp draw for four 10 or 12 inch brakes as 11.3 - 13.3. I can use a 20 amp multi tester. My thinking is to disconnect the house from the house batteries, make sure the breakaway switch still has power, then pull the pin and check amp draw at the battery cable. Is there a hole in that idea?

This would be just the first step, letting me avoid taking apart the wires at the hubs. But if the amps are low, I’ll have to get down there and proceed further.

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  • Snowman9000's avatar
    Snowman9000
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    Nov 07, 2017
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    RCMAN46 wrote:
    Snowman9000 wrote:
    Prodigy P3 controller, not giving any errors. I could get some slowing from the trailer brakes when I pulled the manual lever, but nowhere near enough. This was after brake adjustments.

    I suspect poor wire connections, but don’t want to break them open without testing what I can.


    With the P3 there is a simple test you can perform with the Trouble shoot option on the controller.

    Selectic trouble shoot and the output current option. With the 7 way connected move the manual lever all the way and note the current reading. Now select the output voltage and move the manual lever all the way and note the voltage reading.

    As I sated in a previous post a 4 wheel trailer should read about 1 amp per volt applied.

    I do this test before every trip with my trailer. It only takes a couple minutes and nothing besides using the brake controller with trailer connected is required.


    Thanks, I’ll check it out.
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    time2roll
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    Nov 07, 2017
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    Snowman9000 wrote:
    Prodigy P3 controller, not giving any errors. I could get some slowing from the trailer brakes when I pulled the manual lever, but nowhere near enough. This was after brake adjustments.

    I suspect poor wire connections, but don’t want to break them open without testing what I can.
    Trouble with a multimeter is you need to be in series with the circuit. OK to test the 12 amp draw with a 20 amp rated meter.

    Extra work to go wheel to wheel to find the culprit. Clamp-on meter will identify the issue without cut and repair.

    When I had drums I did find it took a few stops before full braking power was obtained. OK maybe 10 to 20 stops. So get on some open road for a bit before you call them bad.

    BTW P3 works great with disk brakes :)
  • RCMAN46's avatar
    RCMAN46
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    Nov 07, 2017
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    Snowman9000 wrote:
    Prodigy P3 controller, not giving any errors. I could get some slowing from the trailer brakes when I pulled the manual lever, but nowhere near enough. This was after brake adjustments.

    I suspect poor wire connections, but don’t want to break them open without testing what I can.


    With the P3 there is a simple test you can perform with the Trouble shoot option on the controller.

    Selectic trouble shoot and the output current option. With the 7 way connected move the manual lever all the way and note the current reading. Now select the output voltage and move the manual lever all the way and note the voltage reading.

    As I sated in a previous post a 4 wheel trailer should read about 1 amp per volt applied.

    I do this test before every trip with my trailer. It only takes a couple minutes and nothing besides using the brake controller with trailer connected is required.
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    Snowman9000
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    Nov 07, 2017
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    Prodigy P3 controller, not giving any errors. I could get some slowing from the trailer brakes when I pulled the manual lever, but nowhere near enough. This was after brake adjustments.

    I suspect poor wire connections, but don’t want to break them open without testing what I can.
  • mapguy's avatar
    mapguy
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    Nov 07, 2017
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    What brake controller are you using? Are you getting any error messages?
    Low stopping power could very well be mechanical in nature,too. Especially if the wheel bearings were greased via the zerk fitting on the axle end....

    Where the brakes properly adjusted before the road test that determined the low stopping power as a problem.

    Really need to establish mechanically that the brakes are fully functioning before attacking the electrical system. At least, if don't want to do things multiple times.

    With that all being said, inadequate wiring and crappy connections are real common on rv trailers.

    I have been through this issue on my current toyhauler. In then end -the problem was wiring scheme, the poor connections, and the wire gauge used for the amps/wire run length.
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    Snowman9000
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    Nov 07, 2017
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    Lol.

    — —

    I already know the brakes aren’t generating enough stopping force, they failed the on the road tests. Now the fiver is sitting on a snowbird site for the next two months. They have been adjusted, and I watched the guy so I’m satisfied with that. Now I want to check what I can with the wheels on, on the site.
  • Terryallan's avatar
    Terryallan
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    Nov 07, 2017
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    Terryallan wrote:
    Snowman9000 wrote:
    . Is there a hole in that idea?

    .


    Yep. A hole.


    Every one. Please do not take that to think I insinuated Snowman was a dirty name
  • joebedford's avatar
    joebedford
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    Nov 07, 2017
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    I've heard that some people have success using a compass to check brake magnets,

    Me, I jacked each (of 6) wheels to grease the bearings and gave each wheel a spin then shorted 12V and Brakes pins on the 7-pin connector. Each wheel stopped in a jiffy. Good enough for me.

    2 years ago while on the road, I discovered that I didn't have any trailer brakes. Found a broken wire inside unbroken insulation.
  • NMDriver's avatar
    NMDriver
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    Nov 07, 2017
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    Go to a dirt lot, at idle speed apply the trailer brakes with the controller, if the trailer brakes can stop the truck they are working.

    Then go look at the trailer tire marks in the dirt. Are any sliding while the others are rolling to a stop? If so adjust that brake. Did they all roll to a stop without sliding? Set the controller to a slightly more aggressive setting and try it again. This will indicate if one tire is getting more juice than the others or if one has the star adjuster to tight.

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RCMAN46 wrote:
Snowman9000 wrote:
Prodigy P3 controller, not giving any errors. I could get some slowing from the trailer brakes when I pulled the manual lever, but nowhere near enough. This was after brake adjustments.

I suspect poor wire connections, but don’t want to break them open without testing what I can.


With the P3 there is a simple test you can perform with the Trouble shoot option on the controller.

Selectic trouble shoot and the output current option. With the 7 way connected move the manual lever all the way and note the current reading. Now select the output voltage and move the manual lever all the way and note the voltage reading.

As I sated in a previous post a 4 wheel trailer should read about 1 amp per volt applied.

I do this test before every trip with my trailer. It only takes a couple minutes and nothing besides using the brake controller with trailer connected is required.


Thanks, I’ll check it out.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-11-07T10:30:16.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-11-07T10:30:16.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":555},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:2868864/message:2868880","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1066","rawBody":"
RCMAN46 wrote:
Snowman9000 wrote:
Prodigy P3 controller, not giving any errors. I could get some slowing from the trailer brakes when I pulled the manual lever, but nowhere near enough. This was after brake adjustments.

I suspect poor wire connections, but don’t want to break them open without testing what I can.


With the P3 there is a simple test you can perform with the Trouble shoot option on the controller.

Selectic trouble shoot and the output current option. With the 7 way connected move the manual lever all the way and note the current reading. Now select the output voltage and move the manual lever all the way and note the voltage reading.

As I sated in a previous post a 4 wheel trailer should read about 1 amp per volt applied.

I do this test before every trip with my trailer. It only takes a couple minutes and nothing besides using the brake controller with trailer connected is required.


Thanks, I’ll check it out.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2868880_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868879":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2868879","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2868879":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:12422"},"id":"message:2868879","revisionNum":1,"uid":2868879,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2868864"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2868864"},"subject":"Re: Testing electric brakes, Update.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868879"},"body":"Will a clamp meter be affected by the brake magnets?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"52","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-11-07T10:29:39.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-11-07T10:29:39.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":556},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:2868864/message:2868879","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"52","rawBody":"Will a clamp meter be affected by the brake magnets?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2868879_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:39":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:39","position":29,"name":"Nomad","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:108257":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:108257","uid":108257,"login":"time2roll","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-03-21T19:03:16.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:108257"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868878":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2868878","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2868878":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:108257"},"id":"message:2868878","revisionNum":1,"uid":2868878,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2868864"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2868864"},"subject":"Re: Testing electric brakes, Update.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868878"},"body":"
Snowman9000 wrote:
Prodigy P3 controller, not giving any errors. I could get some slowing from the trailer brakes when I pulled the manual lever, but nowhere near enough. This was after brake adjustments.

I suspect poor wire connections, but don’t want to break them open without testing what I can.
Trouble with a multimeter is you need to be in series with the circuit. OK to test the 12 amp draw with a 20 amp rated meter.

Extra work to go wheel to wheel to find the culprit. Clamp-on meter will identify the issue without cut and repair.

When I had drums I did find it took a few stops before full braking power was obtained. OK maybe 10 to 20 stops. So get on some open road for a bit before you call them bad.

BTW P3 works great with disk brakes :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-11-07T09:11:06.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-11-07T09:11:06.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":555},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:2868864/message:2868878","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"832","rawBody":"
Snowman9000 wrote:
Prodigy P3 controller, not giving any errors. I could get some slowing from the trailer brakes when I pulled the manual lever, but nowhere near enough. This was after brake adjustments.

I suspect poor wire connections, but don’t want to break them open without testing what I can.
Trouble with a multimeter is you need to be in series with the circuit. OK to test the 12 amp draw with a 20 amp rated meter.

Extra work to go wheel to wheel to find the culprit. Clamp-on meter will identify the issue without cut and repair.

When I had drums I did find it took a few stops before full braking power was obtained. OK maybe 10 to 20 stops. So get on some open road for a bit before you call them bad.

BTW P3 works great with disk brakes :)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2868878_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:260965":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:260965","uid":260965,"login":"RCMAN46","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-02-24T10:28:26.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:260965"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868877":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2868877","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2868877":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:260965"},"id":"message:2868877","revisionNum":1,"uid":2868877,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2868864"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2868864"},"subject":"Re: Testing electric brakes, Update.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868877"},"body":"
Snowman9000 wrote:
Prodigy P3 controller, not giving any errors. I could get some slowing from the trailer brakes when I pulled the manual lever, but nowhere near enough. This was after brake adjustments.

I suspect poor wire connections, but don’t want to break them open without testing what I can.


With the P3 there is a simple test you can perform with the Trouble shoot option on the controller.

Selectic trouble shoot and the output current option. With the 7 way connected move the manual lever all the way and note the current reading. Now select the output voltage and move the manual lever all the way and note the voltage reading.

As I sated in a previous post a 4 wheel trailer should read about 1 amp per volt applied.

I do this test before every trip with my trailer. It only takes a couple minutes and nothing besides using the brake controller with trailer connected is required.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-11-07T09:00:19.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-11-07T09:00:19.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":555},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:2868864/message:2868877","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"983","rawBody":"
Snowman9000 wrote:
Prodigy P3 controller, not giving any errors. I could get some slowing from the trailer brakes when I pulled the manual lever, but nowhere near enough. This was after brake adjustments.

I suspect poor wire connections, but don’t want to break them open without testing what I can.


With the P3 there is a simple test you can perform with the Trouble shoot option on the controller.

Selectic trouble shoot and the output current option. With the 7 way connected move the manual lever all the way and note the current reading. Now select the output voltage and move the manual lever all the way and note the voltage reading.

As I sated in a previous post a 4 wheel trailer should read about 1 amp per volt applied.

I do this test before every trip with my trailer. It only takes a couple minutes and nothing besides using the brake controller with trailer connected is required.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2868877_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868876":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2868876","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2868876":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:12422"},"id":"message:2868876","revisionNum":1,"uid":2868876,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2868864"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2868864"},"subject":"Re: Testing electric brakes, Update.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868876"},"body":"Prodigy P3 controller, not giving any errors. I could get some slowing from the trailer brakes when I pulled the manual lever, but nowhere near enough. This was after brake adjustments.

I suspect poor wire connections, but don’t want to break them open without testing what I can.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-11-07T08:48:16.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-11-07T08:48:16.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":274},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:2868864/message:2868876","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"292","rawBody":"Prodigy P3 controller, not giving any errors. I could get some slowing from the trailer brakes when I pulled the manual lever, but nowhere near enough. This was after brake adjustments.

I suspect poor wire connections, but don’t want to break them open without testing what I can.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2868876_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:67604":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:67604","uid":67604,"login":"mapguy","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2007-09-02T09:18:56.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:67604"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868875":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2868875","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2868875":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:67604"},"id":"message:2868875","revisionNum":1,"uid":2868875,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2868864"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2868864"},"subject":"Re: Testing electric brakes, Update.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868875"},"body":"What brake controller are you using? Are you getting any error messages?
Low stopping power could very well be mechanical in nature,too. Especially if the wheel bearings were greased via the zerk fitting on the axle end....

Where the brakes properly adjusted before the road test that determined the low stopping power as a problem.

Really need to establish mechanically that the brakes are fully functioning before attacking the electrical system. At least, if don't want to do things multiple times.

With that all being said, inadequate wiring and crappy connections are real common on rv trailers.

I have been through this issue on my current toyhauler. In then end -the problem was wiring scheme, the poor connections, and the wire gauge used for the amps/wire run length.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-11-07T07:54:42.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-11-07T07:54:42.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":202},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:2868864/message:2868875","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"826","rawBody":"What brake controller are you using? Are you getting any error messages?
Low stopping power could very well be mechanical in nature,too. Especially if the wheel bearings were greased via the zerk fitting on the axle end....

Where the brakes properly adjusted before the road test that determined the low stopping power as a problem.

Really need to establish mechanically that the brakes are fully functioning before attacking the electrical system. At least, if don't want to do things multiple times.

With that all being said, inadequate wiring and crappy connections are real common on rv trailers.

I have been through this issue on my current toyhauler. In then end -the problem was wiring scheme, the poor connections, and the wire gauge used for the amps/wire run length.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2868875_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868874":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2868874","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2868874":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:12422"},"id":"message:2868874","revisionNum":1,"uid":2868874,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2868864"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2868864"},"subject":"Re: Testing electric brakes, Update.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868874"},"body":"Lol.

— —

I already know the brakes aren’t generating enough stopping force, they failed the on the road tests. Now the fiver is sitting on a snowbird site for the next two months. They have been adjusted, and I watched the guy so I’m satisfied with that. Now I want to check what I can with the wheels on, on the site.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-11-07T06:47:52.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-11-07T06:47:52.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":203},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:2868864/message:2868874","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"342","rawBody":"Lol.

— —

I already know the brakes aren’t generating enough stopping force, they failed the on the road tests. Now the fiver is sitting on a snowbird site for the next two months. They have been adjusted, and I watched the guy so I’m satisfied with that. Now I want to check what I can with the wheels on, on the site.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2868874_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:41":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:41","position":33,"name":"Explorer II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:187110":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:187110","uid":187110,"login":"Terryallan","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-06-28T20:25:04.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:187110"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868873":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2868873","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2868873":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:187110"},"id":"message:2868873","revisionNum":1,"uid":2868873,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2868864"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2868864"},"subject":"Re: Testing electric brakes, Update.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868873"},"body":"
Terryallan wrote:
Snowman9000 wrote:
. Is there a hole in that idea?

.


Yep. A hole.


Every one. Please do not take that to think I insinuated Snowman was a dirty name","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"184","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-11-07T05:46:19.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-11-07T05:46:19.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":203},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:2868864/message:2868873","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"262","rawBody":"
Terryallan wrote:
Snowman9000 wrote:
. Is there a hole in that idea?

.


Yep. A hole.


Every one. Please do not take that to think I insinuated Snowman was a dirty name","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2868873_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:38":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:38","position":27,"name":"Nomad II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:40951":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:40951","uid":40951,"login":"joebedford","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-09-03T19:56:02.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:38"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:40951"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868872":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2868872","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2868872":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:40951"},"id":"message:2868872","revisionNum":1,"uid":2868872,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2868864"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2868864"},"subject":"Re: Testing electric brakes, Update.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868872"},"body":"I've heard that some people have success using a compass to check brake magnets,

Me, I jacked each (of 6) wheels to grease the bearings and gave each wheel a spin then shorted 12V and Brakes pins on the 7-pin connector. Each wheel stopped in a jiffy. Good enough for me.

2 years ago while on the road, I discovered that I didn't have any trailer brakes. Found a broken wire inside unbroken insulation.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-11-07T04:15:02.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-11-07T04:15:02.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":203},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:2868864/message:2868872","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"423","rawBody":"I've heard that some people have success using a compass to check brake magnets,

Me, I jacked each (of 6) wheels to grease the bearings and gave each wheel a spin then shorted 12V and Brakes pins on the 7-pin connector. Each wheel stopped in a jiffy. Good enough for me.

2 years ago while on the road, I discovered that I didn't have any trailer brakes. Found a broken wire inside unbroken insulation.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2868872_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:194743":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:194743","uid":194743,"login":"NMDriver","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-01-28T13:28:17.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:194743"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868871":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2868871","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2868871":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:194743"},"id":"message:2868871","revisionNum":1,"uid":2868871,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2868864"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2868864"},"subject":"Re: Testing electric brakes, Update.","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2868871"},"body":"Go to a dirt lot, at idle speed apply the trailer brakes with the controller, if the trailer brakes can stop the truck they are working.

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