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720Deere wrote:
spoon059 wrote:
Road Runners wrote:
I want a diesel and the towing capacity of an F-250 at that price. It is doable. There are many buyers like me that would snap up such a truck. I say to hell with this power, breast thumping, race every new truck year.
I agree. The price and weight of a diesel is so excessive because of the ridiculous power numbers they create. There is barely a difference between most 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks (weight ratings because of springs usually). I would like a 8800 GVWR truck with a diesel engine that creates 350 HP and 450 or 500 ft/lbs of torque at 1800 rpms and gets 20 mpg highway that is available for $35K or less.
I don't need 800 ft/lbs torque. I don't need 500 hp. I don't want 14 mpg all the time. There is not really any logical reason for a 3/4 ton truck. Manufacturers can offer a lower GVWR in a 1 ton truck and escape the need to offer the 3/4 ton.
They already build the truck you are looking for, but it is a 1500. Why would anybody want to lower the GVWR of a 1 ton truck that is rated less than the average half ton?
Who makes the truck you're talking about? :h45Ricochet wrote:
Nice looking red truck, err rocket :E
Wonder if all three will use the J2807 starting in 2015?
I read somewhere the 15 series will start this MY.
HD trucks are exempt from the J2807 IIRC.spoon059 wrote:
Road Runners wrote:
I want a diesel and the towing capacity of an F-250 at that price. It is doable. There are many buyers like me that would snap up such a truck. I say to hell with this power, breast thumping, race every new truck year.
I agree. The price and weight of a diesel is so excessive because of the ridiculous power numbers they create. There is barely a difference between most 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks (weight ratings because of springs usually). I would like a 8800 GVWR truck with a diesel engine that creates 350 HP and 450 or 500 ft/lbs of torque at 1800 rpms and gets 20 mpg highway that is available for $35K or less.
I don't need 800 ft/lbs torque. I don't need 500 hp. I don't want 14 mpg all the time. There is not really any logical reason for a 3/4 ton truck. Manufacturers can offer a lower GVWR in a 1 ton truck and escape the need to offer the 3/4 ton.
They already build the truck you are looking for, but it is a 1500. Why would anybody want to lower the GVWR of a 1 ton truck that is rated less than the average half ton?- Nice looking red truck, err rocket :E
Wonder if all three will use the J2807 starting in 2015?
I read somewhere the 15 series will start this MY. Road Runners wrote:
I want a diesel and the towing capacity of an F-250 at that price. It is doable. There are many buyers like me that would snap up such a truck. I say to hell with this power, breast thumping, race every new truck year.
I agree. The price and weight of a diesel is so excessive because of the ridiculous power numbers they create. There is barely a difference between most 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks (weight ratings because of springs usually). I would like a 8800 GVWR truck with a diesel engine that creates 350 HP and 450 or 500 ft/lbs of torque at 1800 rpms and gets 20 mpg highway that is available for $35K or less.
I don't need 800 ft/lbs torque. I don't need 500 hp. I don't want 14 mpg all the time. There is not really any logical reason for a 3/4 ton truck. Manufacturers can offer a lower GVWR in a 1 ton truck and escape the need to offer the 3/4 ton.n7bsn wrote:
I'm Rick James wrote:
downtheroad wrote:
I read that the 2015 Powerstroke is really just an up-tuned 6.0.
Where did you "read" that?:R
On the Internet, you know that can't put anything that's not true on the Internet
:W
It was in the same Internet article that said the 2015 Powerstroke will be an optional engine in Class 8 OTR tractors and the propulsion system for NASA's next heavy lift rocket...........:B- Interesting. I'm thankful for the power in today's truck world. When I'm loaded up with the TC and my enclosed trailer with toys in it I use every bit of power on the hills we have around here. In Oregon we have a lot of hills that they like to put 40MPH corners at the bottom or in the middle. Need lots of power to get back up to speed and I use it and would use more if it was available. Not to mention wanting to pass the Prius drivers going below the speed limit. The rolling hills in ID, and UT the torque is needed to keep going the posted speed limits of 75 and 80.
If you don't want more power get the gas motor or the new 1/2 trucks with diesels that are coming. fla-gypsy wrote:
The kind of power the truck makers are putting in 3/4 ton trucks is a total waste. It is simply not needed in a truck that size but all the school boys keep throwing their money down for them so they keep selling them.
I agree with this. Diesel trucks have had adequate power for years.
What we're missing is better fuel efficiency.
Give my a diesel with 600 or so ft lbs of torque and 30 mpg.fla-gypsy wrote:
It is simply not needed in a truck that size but all the school boys keep throwing their money down for them so they keep selling them.
I'm Rick James wrote:
downtheroad wrote:
I read that the 2015 Powerstroke is really just an up-tuned 6.0.
Where did you "read" that?:R
On the Internet, you know that can't put anything that's not true on the Internet
:W
