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- Airstreamer67ExplorerYep, you guys are really hurting Ford. They should include you in the next 10K report to alert the market of how your great power and influence will soon drive them into the same pitiful category as GM and Chrysler, i.e., bankrupted failures.
Shame, indeed.
If I felt it were worthwhile, I could easily publicize here many disgruntled reports from the GM and Chrysler/Fiat forums on their product problems. But then I have no pathological need.
Yes, all brands have failures. Fortunately, most folks who are disappointed in one way or another do not constantly repeat them again and again and again and, well, you know, again.
Getting to a current newsworthy topic, I wonder how those with the faulty death-dealing GM Keyholes feel about their vehicles, especially if they were hurt by them. GM better feel lucky that Rick doesn't own one. - Turtle_n_PeepsExplorer
DavinD wrote:
Airstreamer67 wrote:
Quote from Ricatic: "My anti BlueKoolAid campaign netted a verified 145 plus 6.7 sales kills costing 7.2 million dollars in lost sales and $1.4 million in lost profits...Have I impacted the Shameful Company that abandoned very loyal customers...a bit...my detractors will poo poo it away as negligible..."
You know, Ricatic, if Ford's F-series pickup hadn't lost its top-ranking sales position, I would have thought your hatred was exceeded only by your megalomania.
That is, I'm sure the F-series will slide down the totem pole any year now as a result of your personal opposition.
So please, please let up on your sales-killing campaign lest Ford will have to be bailed out by the Government or even be sold to Fiat.
Actually, Ricatic is one of those with a true beef.
I don't know who killed more Ford sales, this guy or Ricatic?.
I think this guy killed off more F150 Ecoboost sales and Ricatic killed off more 6.7 F250/350 diesel sales.
I think we all can agree, it was despicable treatment for either. :M - DavinDExplorer
Airstreamer67 wrote:
Quote from Ricatic: "My anti BlueKoolAid campaign netted a verified 145 plus 6.7 sales kills costing 7.2 million dollars in lost sales and $1.4 million in lost profits...Have I impacted the Shameful Company that abandoned very loyal customers...a bit...my detractors will poo poo it away as negligible..."
You know, Ricatic, if Ford's F-series pickup hadn't lost its top-ranking sales position, I would have thought your hatred was exceeded only by your megalomania.
That is, I'm sure the F-series will slide down the totem pole any year now as a result of your personal opposition.
So please, please let up on your sales-killing campaign lest Ford will have to be bailed out by the Government or even be sold to Fiat.
Actually, Ricatic is one of those with a true beef. - ricaticExplorer
Airstreamer67 wrote:
Quote from Ricatic: "My anti BlueKoolAid campaign netted a verified 145 plus 6.7 sales kills costing 7.2 million dollars in lost sales and $1.4 million in lost profits...Have I impacted the Shameful Company that abandoned very loyal customers...a bit...my detractors will poo poo it away as negligible..."
You know, Ricatic, if Ford's F-series pickup hadn't lost its top-ranking sales position, I would have thought your hatred was exceeded only by your megalomania.
That is, I'm sure the F-series will slide down the totem pole any year now as a result of your personal opposition.
So please, please let up on your sales-killing campaign lest Ford will have to be bailed out by the Government or even be sold to Fiat.
:B:B:B...megalomaniac???...me...you certainly do not know me so I will excuse your ignorance...I wonder if you even know the whole story...maybe you are unaware of the fact that Debbie has been a Blue Oval owner for over 45 years...and her dad, a retired Blue Oval engineer after 37 years, never owned anything but a Blue Oval vehicle...
how much did this loyalty count when a contest between a crooked but large dealership and a loyal customer came to be...exactly nothing...how should we feel...please enlighten me...should we not be angry, not feel cheated or betrayed...if you know the whole story (easy enough to learn) you might not be so vitriolic towards my comments...never forget that the same shameful treatment can happen to you...
I am under no illusions that my story will cause the Blue Oval to lose enough money to cause them much concern...that would require a conscience and moral responsibility...they have already proven to possess neither...I have significantly reduced my postings on this issue..usually only post to keep the facts straight...I occasionally get a PM or email about the Shameful Ford Event and am grateful for those who actually took the time to see the whole story...
Enjoy your Blue Oval experience...and good luck on your application for a Blue KoolAid Distributorship...
Regards - Airstreamer67ExplorerQuote from Ricatic: "My anti BlueKoolAid campaign netted a verified 145 plus 6.7 sales kills costing 7.2 million dollars in lost sales and $1.4 million in lost profits...Have I impacted the Shameful Company that abandoned very loyal customers...a bit...my detractors will poo poo it away as negligible..."
You know, Ricatic, if Ford's F-series pickup hadn't lost its top-ranking sales position, I would have thought your hatred was exceeded only by your megalomania.
That is, I'm sure the F-series will slide down the totem pole any year now as a result of your personal opposition.
So please, please let up on your sales-killing campaign lest Ford will have to be bailed out by the Government or even be sold to Fiat. - Ric_FlairExplorerMaybe we should all kiss and make up
- Me_AgainExplorer III
Ric Flair wrote:
Is the gasoline? Chris - Ric_FlairExplorer
- 4x4ordExplorer IIILooks to me like Ford has made an amazing truck even better. I hope to see GM get motivated.
- Bird_FreakExplorer II
ksss wrote:
The only thing I see wrong with this statement is the 6.7 is Fords 1st diesel engine. They did not make Powerstrokes.BurbMan wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
I'm beginning to figure out how they sell these trucks and who they sell them too. :B LOL
Boy that really puts a fine point on the discussion....had coffee coming out of my nose when I read that! LOL!!! Definitely in the "It's only funny because it's true" category...
Think about it, the 6.0 came out in 2003, so Ford is now 10 years later still trying to market a reliable diesel. All motors and vehicles need repairs, but some of the repair bills on these Fords are off the charts!! Combined with the V-10 sparkplug FUBAR, their powertrain engineering team needs a re-org....
The powertrain team at Ford may have dropped the ball since 03. However the Ford marketing group has more than made up for the their pickup's short comings. I would guess the peak of the diesel pickup market started around 1999 give or take. The Ford PS 7.3 was an exceptional powerplant. Even going back to the NA 6.9 and 7.3, they were strong motors for their time. They created a lot of good will during the glory years (thanks to poor offerings from GM and Dodge). Ford since has largely failed to produce a pickup that was equal to the completion since the 6.0. Yet Ford marketing has been successful in creating incredible brand loyalty even though they built the worst product on the market. Anyone know why Ford has been so ignorant on their warranty claims for the 6.7? It's because they can! They have built arguably the worse diesel engine line in the last 10 years and yet they still own the diesel pickup market. GM I am sure does not want to cover those claims over the fuel injection systems but they do, they cant afford not to.
GM and Dodge could not have released the product that Ford has over the last 10 years and survive. No way in hell. Ford excels because they have built a level of brand loyalty with their customers that defies even the worst of products. I would put Ford's customer loyalty right there with John Deere Ag equipment and CAT heavy equipment for brand loyalty. I have read and know guys that threw good money after bad into their 6.0 and 6.4 engines and thanked FORD for their due diligence by buying a 6.7. While some have left the flock, enough stay the course to keep Ford on top of the marketshare leader board.
Regardless if your a Ford fan or not, it is impressive. GM or Ram certainly would love to have the same type of product loyalty.
MY DISCLAIMER (I think the 6.7 is a much better product than either the 6.0 or 6.4 but looks like it still has some teething issues but not nearly the horror show the other two diesels engines have been).
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