2016 Nissan Titan XD Cummins Payload

Well, that's about 400 pounds than a similarly equipped Ram 1500 Ecodiesel. It looks like maybe 100 pounds less than a high level GM 6.2L 1500 and F-150 Ecoboost without the HD payload.

merlin8735 wrote:

SouthpawHD wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Anybody ever consider that the mfgs "know" that most people overload their trucks beyond the factory payload rating, so if they stated payload closer to the design and engineering limits, it may increase their liability for failures?
Other than this forum and like 2 people I know, the rest of the world is not nitpicking what the stated payload is for their truck. IMO, and I know about a zillion truck people, not to mention fleets of construction pickups at work, most peeps just buy a 1500 if it's a grocery getter, 2500 if their weekend warriors and 3500/duallys if they really work em.
Heck I work for a $10billion/yr construction company and they could pretty much give a rats arse what you load he truck with. Maybe we still rely on common sense a bit.
This is not meant to be a slam against those "following the rules", but I don't believe too many people are concerned with a few hundred lbs payload cap when buying a new truck.

I can't comment on what manufacturers think in terms of overloading and such. But I do believe that many, if not most, people have no idea if they are overloaded or not. My BIL loads his Expedition with the 6 members of his family and hooks up his 37' TT and heads out and doesn't think twice about it. I guarantee you he is way overloaded in terms of payload.

I'll tell ya, all this internet thing has done is cost me more money on bigger trucks :)

Wait until they have an accident due to being overloaded, kill some people, and have their insurance company refuse coverage because they were in violation of the law. Granted, most people will overload their 1/2 tons and not even think twice about it. And, in most cases, it doesn't matter. Until, someone gets hurt or killed because of it....then that trigger can be un-pulled.

Insurance refusing coverage because "they were in violation of the law"? Kind of like all the claims they refuse to pay because someone was speeding? Or a DUI? Oh that's right, they pay those claims. Just like they would if someone were overloaded.:S

SouthpawHD wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Anybody ever consider that the mfgs "know" that most people overload their trucks beyond the factory payload rating, so if they stated payload closer to the design and engineering limits, it may increase their liability for failures?
Other than this forum and like 2 people I know, the rest of the world is not nitpicking what the stated payload is for their truck. IMO, and I know about a zillion truck people, not to mention fleets of construction pickups at work, most peeps just buy a 1500 if it's a grocery getter, 2500 if their weekend warriors and 3500/duallys if they really work em.
Heck I work for a $10billion/yr construction company and they could pretty much give a rats arse what you load he truck with. Maybe we still rely on common sense a bit.
This is not meant to be a slam against those "following the rules", but I don't believe too many people are concerned with a few hundred lbs payload cap when buying a new truck.

I can't comment on what manufacturers think in terms of overloading and such. But I do believe that many, if not most, people have no idea if they are overloaded or not. My BIL loads his Expedition with the 6 members of his family and hooks up his 37' TT and heads out and doesn't think twice about it. I guarantee you he is way overloaded in terms of payload.

I'll tell ya, all this internet thing has done is cost me more money on bigger trucks :)

Wait until they have an accident due to being overloaded, kill some people, and have their insurance company refuse coverage because they were in violation of the law. Granted, most people will overload their 1/2 tons and not even think twice about it. And, in most cases, it doesn't matter. Until, someone gets hurt or killed because of it....then that trigger can be un-pulled.

Grit dog wrote:
Anybody ever consider that the mfgs "know" that most people overload their trucks beyond the factory payload rating, so if they stated payload closer to the design and engineering limits, it may increase their liability for failures?
Other than this forum and like 2 people I know, the rest of the world is not nitpicking what the stated payload is for their truck. IMO, and I know about a zillion truck people, not to mention fleets of construction pickups at work, most peeps just buy a 1500 if it's a grocery getter, 2500 if their weekend warriors and 3500/duallys if they really work em.
Heck I work for a $10billion/yr construction company and they could pretty much give a rats arse what you load he truck with. Maybe we still rely on common sense a bit.
This is not meant to be a slam against those "following the rules", but I don't believe too many people are concerned with a few hundred lbs payload cap when buying a new truck.

I can't comment on what manufacturers think in terms of overloading and such. But I do believe that many, if not most, people have no idea if they are overloaded or not. My BIL loads his Expedition with the 6 members of his family and hooks up his 37' TT and heads out and doesn't think twice about it. I guarantee you he is way overloaded in terms of payload.

I'll tell ya, all this internet thing has done is cost me more money on bigger trucks :)

Grit dog is right. Most people pay attention to the over hyped tow capacity. So they think they can hook up a 9000 lb TT to their 1500 with a TC of 10K and go merrily down the road.

Anybody ever consider that the mfgs "know" that most people overload their trucks beyond the factory payload rating, so if they stated payload closer to the design and engineering limits, it may increase their liability for failures?
Other than this forum and like 2 people I know, the rest of the world is not nitpicking what the stated payload is for their truck. IMO, and I know about a zillion truck people, not to mention fleets of construction pickups at work, most peeps just buy a 1500 if it's a grocery getter, 2500 if their weekend warriors and 3500/duallys if they really work em.
Heck I work for a $10billion/yr construction company and they could pretty much give a rats arse what you load he truck with. Maybe we still rely on common sense a bit.
This is not meant to be a slam against those "following the rules", but I don't believe too many people are concerned with a few hundred lbs payload cap when buying a new truck.

The Nissan XD Titan Cummins in the pics has the gooseneck option.

Question for those with experience towing gooseneck trailers. Is 1488 lbs. of payload enough to make this truck useful towing an "average" gooseneck trailer in the realworld? I think most would agree 1488 lbs. is not enough payload to safely handle the pin weight of the vast majority of 5th wheels.

zb39 wrote:
4900# rear axle weight rating........are you kidding?????

Yeah, that's not going to do much for anybody. I like Nissan and have had really good luck with their trucks - I had a first gen Xterra with the old bulletproof 3.3 VG engine and that thing gave me nearly 15 years of completely trouble free use. But they really shot at a narrow niche on this new XD. In the real world I suspect this thing will perform better under load than its half ton competition, but it really isn't rated to do much more.

4900# rear axle weight rating........are you kidding?????

The high trim XD at the autoshow was 1377lb payload, the lesser equipped was 1598.

Also, with those tool box inside the bed and below the rail, I could not see into them completely or reach into the bottom. Not sure that is the best tool box setup.