2016 Titan XD Cummins- TFL

RinconVTR wrote:

otrfun wrote:


The Cummins 5.0 V8 diesel "numbers" speak for themselves. In terms of raw torque (vs. 1/2 ton gas engines), I agree it's not a fair comparison--the Cummins 5.0 V8 comes out on top. You can play the HP card all day long, but big torque numbers at low RPM's is what makes for effortless towing in the realworld. Big HP numbers (relative to torque) require a lot of RPM's and constant transmission activity to maximize output---both distract from the ideal tow experience.

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In the pickup market, yes only the EcoD. In the SUV market, there are many more to compare side by side with their gas engine options.

The Cummins 5.0 numbers do speak for themselves. They are low on HP compared to their competitive gas engine options. We can play the torque vs HP game all day, but the fact remains when you are full throttle under high load...just cause its a diesel doesn't mean its will hold under 2,000rpm where peak torque shows up.

You will be surprised to learn how high these diesels actually run when towing under stress. I suggest you pay closer attention...cause you are clearly missing this point.

I believe that even in the heavy duty trucks the diesels have less HP than their gas counterparts. What is the preferred engine in the HD trucks when towing and hauling? My FIL has a 2015 gas HD. Can he keep up with me? Sure Does he? No. When he had his 2013 diesel he did. The diesels may be running hard in some peoples eyes but the feel like they are just loafing along and do it for hundreds of thousands of miles. There is a big difference in the diesel experience and the gas experience. Some like one and others like the other.