6.7 Powerstroke "3" year report

rmoparman wrote:
Good report

Come back in 25 years like my 92 cummins and talk

CKNSLS wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:

Fordlover wrote:

fulltimedaniel wrote:
I am glad that the OP is happy with his Ford Diesel.

But to be fair 3 years and 88k is not a profound statement on a diesels life or dependability. It is really just beginning it's life and is now completely broken in.

These should be 500 thousand mile engines. and to be honest Ford has had many many problems with it's diesels over the years. One year would be great the next would require changes for emissions and it would be terrible. They seemed for years to have no long range engine design planning for future emissions and power requirements.

The overwhelming number of really older diesels I come across are either the 7.3 Ford which was the International Harvester Bus engine, or old Dodge Cummins.

Dodge did the only smart thing. They teamed up with a real dependable diesel engine maker and put that badge on the truck.

Ford (and for that matter Chevy) would be smart to follow suit. Instead they fiddled around the edges trying to reinvent the wheel. and mostly failed.

Ford should get CAT to source one of their smaller diesels for them and off you go to the races.

And GM who once owned the biggest diesel manufacturer in the US Detroit Diesel could do the same.

I cant wait for MACK to make a pickup.

Daniel, some people have no interest in driving a vehicle 500K miles, and you can put me in that group. If a vehicle can go 200K miles without many problems, I consider that a win, and OP is closing in on half way there, Fish is more than 1/2 way. I personally don't give a flip what the reliability is from 250K to 500+K.

I've driven/ridden in Ford and GM's with 300K on them, and the truck is pretty shot at that point. I've ridden in older Dodges with 150K on them and they are shot. I've heard the new interiors are much nicer, so maybe they hold up better than the 90's and early 2000 models.

That's what I have been saying. Claims of a non-commercial truck being on the road for a half-million miles is "macho talk". The truck (even with a diesel motor) is pretty much junk after 300,000 miles.

When I sold my 5 year old 2011 F350, which was used for farm work, it ran, drove and looked like new after 100,000 miles. Not a single, scratch, rattle or air leak. In fact while I was selling it potential buyers made comments such as "this truck seems absolutely like new" or "your wife obviously never let you wear your shoes in this truck" or another fellow said "When I drove up I got an ______ as soon as i saw the truck". Other than wear on the driver's seat (King Ranch leather) the truck was extremely difficult to distinguish from one on the showroom floor.

The truck (even with a diesel motor) is pretty much junk after 300,000 miles.

CKNSLS wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:

Fordlover wrote:

fulltimedaniel wrote:
I am glad that the OP is happy with his Ford Diesel.

But to be fair 3 years and 88k is not a profound statement on a diesels life or dependability. It is really just beginning it's life and is now completely broken in.

These should be 500 thousand mile engines. and to be honest Ford has had many many problems with it's diesels over the years. One year would be great the next would require changes for emissions and it would be terrible. They seemed for years to have no long range engine design planning for future emissions and power requirements.

The overwhelming number of really older diesels I come across are either the 7.3 Ford which was the International Harvester Bus engine, or old Dodge Cummins.

Dodge did the only smart thing. They teamed up with a real dependable diesel engine maker and put that badge on the truck.

Ford (and for that matter Chevy) would be smart to follow suit. Instead they fiddled around the edges trying to reinvent the wheel. and mostly failed.

Ford should get CAT to source one of their smaller diesels for them and off you go to the races.

And GM who once owned the biggest diesel manufacturer in the US Detroit Diesel could do the same.

I cant wait for MACK to make a pickup.

Daniel, some people have no interest in driving a vehicle 500K miles, and you can put me in that group. If a vehicle can go 200K miles without many problems, I consider that a win, and OP is closing in on half way there, Fish is more than 1/2 way. I personally don't give a flip what the reliability is from 250K to 500+K.

I've driven/ridden in Ford and GM's with 300K on them, and the truck is pretty shot at that point. I've ridden in older Dodges with 150K on them and they are shot. I've heard the new interiors are much nicer, so maybe they hold up better than the 90's and early 2000 models.

That's what I have been saying. Claims of a non-commercial truck being on the road for a half-million miles is "macho talk". The truck (even with a diesel motor) is pretty much junk after 300,000 miles.

When I sold my 5 year old 2011 F350, which was used for farm work, it ran, drove and looked like new after 100,000 miles. Not a single, scratch, rattle or air leak. In fact while I was selling it potential buyers made comments such as "this truck seems absolutely like new" or "your wife obviously never let you wear your shoes in this truck" or another fellow said "When I drove up I got an ______ as soon as i saw the truck". Other than wear on the driver's seat (King Ranch leather) the truck was extremely difficult to distinguish from one on the showroom floor.

The truck (even with a diesel motor) is pretty much junk after 300,000 miles.

4x4ord wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:

Fordlover wrote:

fulltimedaniel wrote:
I am glad that the OP is happy with his Ford Diesel.

But to be fair 3 years and 88k is not a profound statement on a diesels life or dependability. It is really just beginning it's life and is now completely broken in.

These should be 500 thousand mile engines. and to be honest Ford has had many many problems with it's diesels over the years. One year would be great the next would require changes for emissions and it would be terrible. They seemed for years to have no long range engine design planning for future emissions and power requirements.

The overwhelming number of really older diesels I come across are either the 7.3 Ford which was the International Harvester Bus engine, or old Dodge Cummins.

Dodge did the only smart thing. They teamed up with a real dependable diesel engine maker and put that badge on the truck.

Ford (and for that matter Chevy) would be smart to follow suit. Instead they fiddled around the edges trying to reinvent the wheel. and mostly failed.

Ford should get CAT to source one of their smaller diesels for them and off you go to the races.

And GM who once owned the biggest diesel manufacturer in the US Detroit Diesel could do the same.

I cant wait for MACK to make a pickup.

Daniel, some people have no interest in driving a vehicle 500K miles, and you can put me in that group. If a vehicle can go 200K miles without many problems, I consider that a win, and OP is closing in on half way there, Fish is more than 1/2 way. I personally don't give a flip what the reliability is from 250K to 500+K.

I've driven/ridden in Ford and GM's with 300K on them, and the truck is pretty shot at that point. I've ridden in older Dodges with 150K on them and they are shot. I've heard the new interiors are much nicer, so maybe they hold up better than the 90's and early 2000 models.

That's what I have been saying. Claims of a non-commercial truck being on the road for a half-million miles is "macho talk". The truck (even with a diesel motor) is pretty much junk after 300,000 miles.

When I sold my 5 year old 2011 F350, which was used for farm work, it ran, drove and looked like new after 100,000 miles. Not a single, scratch, rattle or air leak. In fact while I was selling it potential buyers made comments such as "this truck seems absolutely like new" or "your wife obviously never let you wear your shoes in this truck" or another fellow said "When I drove up I got an ______ as soon as i saw the truck". Other than wear on the driver's seat (King Ranch leather) the truck was extremely difficult to distinguish from one on the showroom floor.

CKNSLS wrote:

Fordlover wrote:

fulltimedaniel wrote:
I am glad that the OP is happy with his Ford Diesel.

But to be fair 3 years and 88k is not a profound statement on a diesels life or dependability. It is really just beginning it's life and is now completely broken in.

These should be 500 thousand mile engines. and to be honest Ford has had many many problems with it's diesels over the years. One year would be great the next would require changes for emissions and it would be terrible. They seemed for years to have no long range engine design planning for future emissions and power requirements.

The overwhelming number of really older diesels I come across are either the 7.3 Ford which was the International Harvester Bus engine, or old Dodge Cummins.

Dodge did the only smart thing. They teamed up with a real dependable diesel engine maker and put that badge on the truck.

Ford (and for that matter Chevy) would be smart to follow suit. Instead they fiddled around the edges trying to reinvent the wheel. and mostly failed.

Ford should get CAT to source one of their smaller diesels for them and off you go to the races.

And GM who once owned the biggest diesel manufacturer in the US Detroit Diesel could do the same.

I cant wait for MACK to make a pickup.

Daniel, some people have no interest in driving a vehicle 500K miles, and you can put me in that group. If a vehicle can go 200K miles without many problems, I consider that a win, and OP is closing in on half way there, Fish is more than 1/2 way. I personally don't give a flip what the reliability is from 250K to 500+K.

I've driven/ridden in Ford and GM's with 300K on them, and the truck is pretty shot at that point. I've ridden in older Dodges with 150K on them and they are shot. I've heard the new interiors are much nicer, so maybe they hold up better than the 90's and early 2000 models.

That's what I have been saying. Claims of a non-commercial truck being on the road for a half-million miles is "macho talk". The truck (even with a diesel motor) is pretty much junk after 300,000 miles.

Fordlover wrote:

fulltimedaniel wrote:
I am glad that the OP is happy with his Ford Diesel.

But to be fair 3 years and 88k is not a profound statement on a diesels life or dependability. It is really just beginning it's life and is now completely broken in.

These should be 500 thousand mile engines. and to be honest Ford has had many many problems with it's diesels over the years. One year would be great the next would require changes for emissions and it would be terrible. They seemed for years to have no long range engine design planning for future emissions and power requirements.

The overwhelming number of really older diesels I come across are either the 7.3 Ford which was the International Harvester Bus engine, or old Dodge Cummins.

Dodge did the only smart thing. They teamed up with a real dependable diesel engine maker and put that badge on the truck.

Ford (and for that matter Chevy) would be smart to follow suit. Instead they fiddled around the edges trying to reinvent the wheel. and mostly failed.

Ford should get CAT to source one of their smaller diesels for them and off you go to the races.

And GM who once owned the biggest diesel manufacturer in the US Detroit Diesel could do the same.

I cant wait for MACK to make a pickup.

Daniel, some people have no interest in driving a vehicle 500K miles, and you can put me in that group. If a vehicle can go 200K miles without many problems, I consider that a win, and OP is closing in on half way there, Fish is more than 1/2 way. I personally don't give a flip what the reliability is from 250K to 500+K.

I've driven/ridden in Ford and GM's with 300K on them, and the truck is pretty shot at that point. I've ridden in older Dodges with 150K on them and they are shot. I've heard the new interiors are much nicer, so maybe they hold up better than the 90's and early 2000 models.

blofgren wrote:

mx727 wrote:
2014 F450, 97000 miles. At 88000, the High Pressure Fuel Pump went out. $10K dollar repair that Ford or their extended warranty wouldn't cover. The only reason I purchased the extended warranty was I knew there were issues with Ford's fuel system. They will tell you it was water in the fuel, but you will never get a WIF light and their filters clearly don't remove the water. Really has made me wonder if I'll get another one.

Sorry to hear of the trouble with your truck. This problem is a major factor why I did not purchase a 6.7L Super Duty, along with the complexity of the engine. Some will say the HPFP failures are not common but I have heard of enough of them to know that the problem is very real and is still occurring in relatively new trucks. GM did not discontinue using the Bosch CP4 pump because it was reliable! I plan on keeping my truck for a very long time so out of warranty repair costs was a major factor in my decision.

The Ford also did not have a very good exhaust brake at the time I was shopping which was another very important factor for me because we tow quite heavy through mountain passes out here on the West coast.

fulltimedaniel wrote:
I am glad that the OP is happy with his Ford Diesel.

But to be fair 3 years and 88k is not a profound statement on a diesels life or dependability. It is really just beginning it's life and is now completely broken in.

These should be 500 thousand mile engines. and to be honest Ford has had many many problems with it's diesels over the years. One year would be great the next would require changes for emissions and it would be terrible. They seemed for years to have no long range engine design planning for future emissions and power requirements.

The overwhelming number of really older diesels I come across are either the 7.3 Ford which was the International Harvester Bus engine, or old Dodge Cummins.

Dodge did the only smart thing. They teamed up with a real dependable diesel engine maker and put that badge on the truck.

Ford (and for that matter Chevy) would be smart to follow suit. Instead they fiddled around the edges trying to reinvent the wheel. and mostly failed.

Ford should get CAT to source one of their smaller diesels for them and off you go to the races.

And GM who once owned the biggest diesel manufacturer in the US Detroit Diesel could do the same.

I cant wait for MACK to make a pickup.

BigToe wrote:

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The steady state highway use that a 2015 model year truck with 260,000 miles on it in only 2 years is a strong indication that the diesel exhaust system had plenty of opportunity to stay regenerated and clean.

A lot of the internal engine problems with the last three Ford diesels have in many ways involved some part of the emissions system, whether EGR, cooling, sensors, DPF/SCR, etc. I'm quite sure my limited usage of a diesel truck would surely lead to clogging and related problems.
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