Bluhorn wrote:
A lot of companies will not allow a lifetime warranty on a diesel powertrain, as people tend to keep them longer. I drove the GC diesel and came away very impressed. And try not to let the usual detractors sour you on a nice combo. Good luck!
Bluhorn wrote:
Give it a rest fish...there are detractors for every make and model. Even your beloved Ford. You cant wait to start bashing and its getting tiring. You and others go out of your way to go negative. My apologies to the OP.
ChooChooMan74 wrote:
I can not speak yet for the new 8 speed, since I am waiting for the Ram 1500 Diesels to come out, and they have the new 8 speed. I currently tow with a Jeep Liberty Diesel, with a 5 speed,and my towing experience is not the best, but it works well for me right now.
The 8 speed has some real nice gear ratios, and I really can't wait to tow with it. I will link you to the chart I made, although it does compare my Jeep to a Ram 1500, but you will get an idea.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50165289/Liberty%20VS%20Ram%20Gearing%20Chart.pdf
BillyW wrote:
I certainly wouldn't buy a Ford based on all these "negative" posts:
Ford troubles
Other Ford troubles
Yet more Ford troubles
Do a search on MyFord Touch, or ANY Ford engine for that matter. Plenty of sour grapes.
I've owned about 20 vehicles, most of which were Mopars, but 5 were Fords. Out of all of them, the Fords have been the most troublesome. My current F150 dropped an engine. In my almost 40 years of driving, it's the only vehicle I've owned that's cost me thousands to repair. And that's more than once. However, in my search for a new tow vehicle, I'm seriously looking at Ford (and RAM) because they have the features I really want, and I realize that they're not as bad as the "detractors" would have me believe, despite some of my own experiences. If I was in the market for an SUV, that GC would be at the top of my list.
How could anybody ever buy a new vehicle if they listened to the Negative Nelly's and their favorite Youtube vids.
Area13 wrote:
I hate to be negative about any vehicle and try not to be a nay sayer.
I (Wife) owned a GC for 4 years and had a lot of problems. Now this was a while ago and the new ones might be the tops, IDK.
I (we) have owned probably close to 20 vehicles, 3 VW's, 3 Audis, 3 Fords, 1 Dodge, 3 Nissans, 1 Chevy, 2 Acuras, 1 Honda, 1 BMW...
We have had great luck with almost all of our WELL MAINTAINED vehicles.
HONESTLY, the GC was by far the worst. It left us hangin several times. Water pump(s), front drive shaft all sorts of expensive stuff. We literally traded it in parked (dead) at the local mini mart with electrical problems (short) with under a 100k miles for a Nissan Pathfinder. Pathfinder (2 owned) was the best SUV we owned during our raising kids era, solid. I have nothing negative to say about any of the other vehicles listed, all great. Wife still drives an Audi TT QR, me a an old 7.3 Superduty.
Sorry if I sound Negative, just real world experience.
Area13 wrote:
I hate to be negative about any vehicle and try not to be a nay sayer.
I (Wife) owned a GC for 4 years and had a lot of problems. Now this was a while ago and the new ones might be the tops, IDK.
I (we) have owned probably close to 20 vehicles, 3 VW's, 3 Audis, 3 Fords, 1 Dodge, 3 Nissans, 1 Chevy, 2 Acuras, 1 Honda, 1 BMW...
We have had great luck with almost all of our WELL MAINTAINED vehicles.
HONESTLY, the GC was by far the worst. It left us hangin several times. Water pump(s), front drive shaft all sorts of expensive stuff. We literally traded it in parked (dead) at the local mini mart with electrical problems (short) with under a 100k miles for a Nissan Pathfinder. Pathfinder (2 owned) was the best SUV we owned during our raising kids era, solid. I have nothing negative to say about any of the other vehicles listed, all great. Wife still drives an Audi TT QR, me a an old 7.3 Superduty.
Sorry if I sound Negative, just real world experience.
