Back and forth between F250/Ram 2500

Winslow ferry is in, I have a.headache from bickering.....bye bye.
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Choose the.one.with.the seats.that fit y I u wife's rear end the.best! You'll be a MUCH happier camper! Trust me......

Marty

Rick, It's one of those things that "goes without saying " :B

NC Hauler wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

RoyBell wrote:
I have 2 first-hand instances.

1) GC has a '12 CCSB 6.7. I think it's '12. Has the 6.7 logo and current style grill on it. He just gave it to one of his workers and purchased a brand new '16. I asked him if he ever had issues with it since I was looking to purchase one and he must like it if he just got a 16. He said he's really only had one issue..which was the fuel system. He said that the pump failed and Ford would not cover damages. They claimed he put DEF in the fuel tank which ruined it and would not cover it under warranty. He said he doesn't remember doing that but maybe he did. He paid it, but obviously that didn't deter him from getting another and boosting their product to me as the "best truck ever".

2) One of my dads friends also had an early model 6.7. But this one was losing oil. Ford couldn't figure it out. Wasn't leaking. They went as far as sealing up all the drain plugs so that they could make sure no tampering was done. The guy would let it run all day long to prove the point that it was disappearing. They would drain the oil and it would sure enough be short. They never figured out the problem to my knowledge. We have lost contact with him since this was going on but last we heard they were not doing anything since the engine was still running OK.

Beyond that, just search CP4 fuel pump failure online. Hell, there's even a support group on facebook when you google it. I will admit most of these appear to be on pre 2015 trucks, but doesn't mean Ford won't stick it to you if your 2015 has those issues.

some quick google links

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1144540-ideas-to-prevent-expensive-hpfp-system-repairs.html

https://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/29434-Ford-6-7L-HPFP-failures-w-o-warranty/page2

http://forddieselpower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10836

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1106161-hpfp-failures.html

So your first example is void because owner admits he may have put def in tank. And the second you don't know what the final outcome was as you have lost contact with owner so you have no idea if a warranty was refused or if truck was ever fixed.
Im not trying to give anyone a hard time its just people claim I know a guy this happened too and spread the stories. Most folks with problems don't want to admit water or def in fuel. I know our local Ford dealer has had two pump problems. One water in fuel and one failed pump, failed pump was covered.

You mean kind of like "someone" on this forum who knows someone, or knows someone that knew someone who owned a Dodge/Ram pick up and...., :)

I understand where you're coming from. A lot of "hear say"..

Can I guess who "Someone" is :B

Personal experience I never had the driver door fall off on a Ford.

Bird Freak wrote:

RoyBell wrote:
I have 2 first-hand instances.

1) GC has a '12 CCSB 6.7. I think it's '12. Has the 6.7 logo and current style grill on it. He just gave it to one of his workers and purchased a brand new '16. I asked him if he ever had issues with it since I was looking to purchase one and he must like it if he just got a 16. He said he's really only had one issue..which was the fuel system. He said that the pump failed and Ford would not cover damages. They claimed he put DEF in the fuel tank which ruined it and would not cover it under warranty. He said he doesn't remember doing that but maybe he did. He paid it, but obviously that didn't deter him from getting another and boosting their product to me as the "best truck ever".

2) One of my dads friends also had an early model 6.7. But this one was losing oil. Ford couldn't figure it out. Wasn't leaking. They went as far as sealing up all the drain plugs so that they could make sure no tampering was done. The guy would let it run all day long to prove the point that it was disappearing. They would drain the oil and it would sure enough be short. They never figured out the problem to my knowledge. We have lost contact with him since this was going on but last we heard they were not doing anything since the engine was still running OK.

Beyond that, just search CP4 fuel pump failure online. Hell, there's even a support group on facebook when you google it. I will admit most of these appear to be on pre 2015 trucks, but doesn't mean Ford won't stick it to you if your 2015 has those issues.

some quick google links

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1144540-ideas-to-prevent-expensive-hpfp-system-repairs.html

https://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/29434-Ford-6-7L-HPFP-failures-w-o-warranty/page2

http://forddieselpower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10836

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1106161-hpfp-failures.html

So your first example is void because owner admits he may have put def in tank. And the second you don't know what the final outcome was as you have lost contact with owner so you have no idea if a warranty was refused or if truck was ever fixed.
Im not trying to give anyone a hard time its just people claim I know a guy this happened too and spread the stories. Most folks with problems don't want to admit water or def in fuel. I know our local Ford dealer has had two pump problems. One water in fuel and one failed pump, failed pump was covered.

You mean kind of like "someone" on this forum who knows someone, or knows someone that knew someone who owned a Dodge/Ram pick up and...., :)

I understand where you're coming from. A lot of "hear say"..

RoyBell wrote:
$400 for replacement key for the odd chance someone steals my current key, vs $10K for out of warranty repair because Ford won't warranty their Diesel engines? Sounds like a fair trade off.

Never mind. You have your mind made up even though it is obviously influenced by the rv.net knitting circle. Enjoy whatever truck you buy.

Bird Freak wrote:
So your first example is void because owner admits he may have put def in tank. And the second you don't know what the final outcome was as you have lost contact with owner so you have no idea if a warranty was refused or if truck was ever fixed.
Im not trying to give anyone a hard time its just people claim I know a guy this happened too and spread the stories. Most folks with problems don't want to admit water or def in fuel. I know our local Ford dealer has had two pump problems. One water in fuel and one failed pump, failed pump was covered.

From reading everyones posts online it appears very common for Ford to try this very tactic to void warranty and make people pay out of pocket.

Keep in mind I created this post and did much research and have driven both as well. There is much documentation online of these pumps causing failures to both GM and Ford, but GM was warrantying the trucks while Ford was not. Dodge uses a different pump so they did not have these failures.

RoyBell wrote:
I have 2 first-hand instances.

1) GC has a '12 CCSB 6.7. I think it's '12. Has the 6.7 logo and current style grill on it. He just gave it to one of his workers and purchased a brand new '16. I asked him if he ever had issues with it since I was looking to purchase one and he must like it if he just got a 16. He said he's really only had one issue..which was the fuel system. He said that the pump failed and Ford would not cover damages. They claimed he put DEF in the fuel tank which ruined it and would not cover it under warranty. He said he doesn't remember doing that but maybe he did. He paid it, but obviously that didn't deter him from getting another and boosting their product to me as the "best truck ever".

2) One of my dads friends also had an early model 6.7. But this one was losing oil. Ford couldn't figure it out. Wasn't leaking. They went as far as sealing up all the drain plugs so that they could make sure no tampering was done. The guy would let it run all day long to prove the point that it was disappearing. They would drain the oil and it would sure enough be short. They never figured out the problem to my knowledge. We have lost contact with him since this was going on but last we heard they were not doing anything since the engine was still running OK.

Beyond that, just search CP4 fuel pump failure online. Hell, there's even a support group on facebook when you google it. I will admit most of these appear to be on pre 2015 trucks, but doesn't mean Ford won't stick it to you if your 2015 has those issues.

some quick google links

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1144540-ideas-to-prevent-expensive-hpfp-system-repairs.html

https://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/29434-Ford-6-7L-HPFP-failures-w-o-warranty/page2

http://forddieselpower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10836

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1106161-hpfp-failures.html

So your first example is void because owner admits he may have put def in tank. And the second you don't know what the final outcome was as you have lost contact with owner so you have no idea if a warranty was refused or if truck was ever fixed.
Im not trying to give anyone a hard time its just people claim I know a guy this happened too and spread the stories. Most folks with problems don't want to admit water or def in fuel. I know our local Ford dealer has had two pump problems. One water in fuel and one failed pump, failed pump was covered.

I have 2 first-hand instances.

1) GC has a '12 CCSB 6.7. I think it's '12. Has the 6.7 logo and current style grill on it. He just gave it to one of his workers and purchased a brand new '16. I asked him if he ever had issues with it since I was looking to purchase one and he must like it if he just got a 16. He said he's really only had one issue..which was the fuel system. He said that the pump failed and Ford would not cover damages. They claimed he put DEF in the fuel tank which ruined it and would not cover it under warranty. He said he doesn't remember doing that but maybe he did. He paid it, but obviously that didn't deter him from getting another and boosting their product to me as the "best truck ever".

2) One of my dads friends also had an early model 6.7. But this one was losing oil. Ford couldn't figure it out. Wasn't leaking. They went as far as sealing up all the drain plugs so that they could make sure no tampering was done. The guy would let it run all day long to prove the point that it was disappearing. They would drain the oil and it would sure enough be short. They never figured out the problem to my knowledge. We have lost contact with him since this was going on but last we heard they were not doing anything since the engine was still running OK.

Beyond that, just search CP4 fuel pump failure online. Hell, there's even a support group on facebook when you google it. I will admit most of these appear to be on pre 2015 trucks, but doesn't mean Ford won't stick it to you if your 2015 has those issues.

some quick google links

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1144540-ideas-to-prevent-expensive-hpfp-system-repairs.html

https://www.heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/29434-Ford-6-7L-HPFP-failures-w-o-warranty/page2

http://forddieselpower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10836

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1106161-hpfp-failures.html

RoyBell wrote:
$400 for replacement key for the odd chance someone steals my current key, vs $10K for out of warranty repair because Ford won't warranty their Diesel engines? Sounds like a fair trade off.

just curious as to when the last time you know first hand of Ford not covering their engines. I figure if your going to post you must have first hand knowledge.