CLICKYOle well the Dodge boys can't use the old statement " Why do Fords use a Cummins in the 650 & 750 trucks" much longer :B Hey at least Ford is using the Ram mirrors now :W The new PSD numbers should be interesting when they are released.

The saddest Ford product I ever drove had a V-8 Cat diesel and an Allison transmission. Good to hear they have improved.........

Yeah, this is only fords umm.. 4th attempt to build a better engine since the legendary 7.3... I wouldn't wait in line to see how well this one works, there is a reason they beta test things.

Roundtwo-40 wrote:Yeah, this is only fords umm.. 4th attempt to build a better engine since the legendary 7.3... I wouldn't wait in line to see how well this one works, there is a reason they beta test things.Actually, its their first. The other attempts were done by Navistar.

I believe the 6.7L PSD is Ford first attempt as far as pickup trucks are concerned. The 7.3 and the obamanations that followed were IH/Navistar's.

Ahh, my mistake, is that why they refused to stand behind them?

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FishOnOne
Nomad
Mar 08, 2014
Cummins12V98 wrote:
How are they going to sell a medium duty truck with a light duty engine?

Oh that's right they hand out "Blue" glasses upon entry to the sales lot.
larry_barnhart
Explorer
Mar 08, 2014
Why are you guys worrying about what ford will do? Does it matter in your life that much?

chevman
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Mar 08, 2014
How are they going to sell a medium duty truck with a light duty engine?

Oh that's right they hand out "Blue" glasses upon entry to the sales lot.
Roundtwo-40
Explorer
Mar 08, 2014
Potato potahto, dont care who made it, your still walking.
Hannibal
Explorer
Mar 08, 2014
It would be a credible rant if the 6.0 PSD was a Ford engine. I'm not having any problems at all with my Ford engines.
BigToe
Explorer
Mar 08, 2014
SooperDaddy wrote:
After my meticulously maintained and babied 2004 F250 6.0L died from the dreaded cascade failure, and I was told by actual Ford techs that I should have "upgraded this and that, "bullet proof it "and "the other stuff" to improve reliability. HUH? You can't do that here!

So after owning dozens of Ford products in the past AND being a FORMER loyal Ford Guy with 12 Fords in 25 years...I am now officially vaccinated with the "NOMOREFORDS4ME" inoculation.

The 6 new cars myself and my family have purchased after selling off all the Fords

FLASHBACK:

Posted By wrote:

I've got two bought new F-250 Crew Cab 6.0 Diesels, combined miles of over 200,000....both have been reliable and great trucks. I have used Power Service diesel fuel additive in every tank full since new.

The only real quibble I have is that now I am looking to sell or trade in both for 2 new vehicles..the bottom has really dropped out of the wholesale and retail NADA values. For some reason the 2003 is worth more than the less problematic 2004!

This is due to the rampant bashing that goes on constantly from the folks who have no first hand knowledge of these trucks. Considering the vast numbers of the 6.0 diesels that were sold, the "bad" incidents were wildly exagerated in my opinion.

Especially when considering an estimated 1.5 million 6.0 Diesels were sold in F-series and E-series Fords.

Posted By wrote:

You'll hear from the "choir" of people who have no 1st hand ownership info on the 6.0 PSD Engine..bashing and throwing cow pucky at it.

And in truth it is an engine that has had issues for Ford, early 2003 thru mid year 2004 6.0's did have troubles, turbo, EGR, oil cooler, Coolant systems...but the small percentage of the engines with issues compared to the huge number Ford (International) built is low.

And Ford bought back by Ford from the unhappy owners in a few cases.

However, that said, I have a 2003 and a 2004 Ford 6.0 equipped bone stock diesel F250s with a combined 200,000 miles trouble free.

So "take this from a man who ownes one" or in this case 2!

FAST FORWARD:

SooperDaddy Posted on 3/5/14 wrote:

Google "Ford 6.0L Bullet Proof Kit"! EGR cooler kit $1450.00,EGR Delete kit $1400.00, Oil Cooler kit, Head Bolt kits,$3000.00 for a turbo...etc. Never again. Never again a Ford Truck. Never again a Ford Engine. Never, Never again ANY Ford.

Like Saul saw the light on the road to Damascus and became Paul, so doth FordSooperDooty seeth the light and has now became SooperDaddy.

Bass, or Tenor?

I"m thinking Preacher.
FishOnOne
Nomad
Mar 08, 2014
45Ricochet wrote:
But wait, I heard the Allison 1000 was in TANKS.
Your gold standard has been replaced dog.
Terryallan
Explorer II
Mar 06, 2014
larry barnhart wrote:
where do you think the ford diesels are made?

chevman

I said the TRUCKS were made in Mexico. Now they will be built in Avon Lake Ohio. Me I think that is a good thing

For years, the two vehicles were built on chassis made in Escobedo, Mexico under a joint venture with Navistar, using diesel engines supplied by Cummins and transmissions supplied by Allison.

Ford executives say bringing the components back in-house will reduce costs and simplify service issues when they arise.

The production shift to the United States is welcome news for most of the 1,600 UAW-represented production workers employed at the Ohio plant.

They faced the specter of mass layoffs as Ford largely phased out the E-Series "Econoline" van currently made in their plant in favor of the new Transit line of vans, which will be built in Kansas City. By moving medium-duty truck production back to the United States, only a few hundred union members will lose their jobs.
45Ricochet
Explorer
Mar 06, 2014
But wait, I heard the Allison 1000 was in TANKS.
Your gold standard has been replaced dog.
Jarlaxle
Explorer II
Mar 06, 2014
FishOnOne wrote:
Me Again wrote:
720Deere wrote:
It probably would have been a better idea to use a VP44 equipped 53 block backed up by a 48RE transmission! The mirrors look more like they are trying to copy the GM Kodiak trucks more than the moose ears.

LOL

With an engine mounted Carter lift pump! Maybe the 47RH from the 12V's.

Chris

Yeah and don't worry about adjusting the bands in the 47 Torque flight since you'll be smoking those tranny's left and right.

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And yet...some of the highly-modified Duramax trucks run 48RE transmissions!