But the salesman TOLD me it could!

:) Hi, I was looking for a new F-150 to replace my Navigator as a tow vehicle. Note: Navigator payload is 1600 lbs. and it's tow rating is 8,900 lbs. At a local Ford dealer I drove through their lot and didn't see any F-150's with towing mirrors; That was a bad sign to me. I went into their show room, took a few pictures of a nice restored Ford 9-N tractor, and got a bag of free popcorn. Salesman asked me if I was interested in buying a new vehicle or was I just there to take pictures of the tractor and eat the free popcorn. I told him that I was looking for an F-150 to tow my trailer, but I didn't see any with towing mirrors so they didn't have what I needed / wanted in stock. Salesman asked me what my trailer weighed and I told him it was 6,300 lbs. His response was that there wasn't an F-150 on the lot that couldn't tow 7,200 lbs. And my response to him was that there is no reason for me to buy a new truck that has a lower payload and tow rating than my Lincoln.

I bought my truck at a different dealer.

I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt...This is so far off reality, I doubt he was purposely giving you false information or didn't understand.

Some of the 1/2 tons have a "tow rating" of 10-11k lbs...he may have simply misspoke and meant 10-11 1000lbs rather than 10-11 tons.

valhalla360 wrote:
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt...This is so far off reality, I doubt he was purposely giving you false information or didn't understand.

Some of the 1/2 tons have a "tow rating" of 10-11k lbs...he may have simply misspoke and meant 10-11 1000lbs rather than 10-11 tons.

That's very gracious of you - and maybe it's true. More likely (IMHO) is that it was just ignorance. I haven't purchased a vehicle in 20 years where I didn't know more about what I was buying than the salesperson.

I have found the sales department a lot more honest then those lying #$&@* in the service department

FlatBroke wrote:
I have found the sales department a lot more honest then those lying #$&@* in the service department

That was certainly true of Monroe Dodge where I bought my truck.

Give the salesman a break, he was selling toasters last week

It makes you wonder if the guy even knew what a ton is.

My brother had a late '70s Dodge pickup with the 225 six, a three speed and an aftermarket bumper that was stamped 12.000lbs. I lot of people thought that the number on the bumper applied to the whole truck.

valhalla360 wrote:
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt...This is so far off reality, I doubt he was purposely giving you false information or didn't understand.

Some of the 1/2 tons have a "tow rating" of 10-11k lbs...he may have simply misspoke and meant 10-11 1000lbs rather than 10-11 tons.

Even if he confused ton with thousand, I highly doubt all of their 1/2 trucks could tow 10k lbs.

blt2ski wrote:
I recall an engineer in the lunch room at the Duramax factory, telling me to get rid of my 6.5td, a D/A combo would pull anything I had, better, up steeper hills/grades etc......yeah right!

Bought one a few years later.......Stalled the dmax on a STEEP grade the 6.5td went up with a 12K trailer in tow! yeah right says the engineer who helped design this motor! Turns out the dmax had less gradibility than my 5 sp 6.5! On a freeway grade, yes the 300+hp left the 185hp rig on the side of the road! More to towing prowess than just HP and Torque!

Marty

Marty, I love your posts, but you’re a bit stuck on dead center on gradeability. Actually a lot stuck. I believe pretty much everything you post 100% because you’re correct in your analyses.
However, to suggest that other than your home brew gradeability test, that a 6.5TD pulls anything like a LB7 is about 100% false and it makes your other analyses appear less valid.
I’ve had a couple 6.5s (briefly, because you could buy those frustrating P of S trucks cheap and always find a willing consumer who didn’t know anything about diesels to pay top dollar. ) that I fixed and flipped. Even drove one for a while. Great mileage and decent power compared to the predominant 90s gassers.

BUT a bone stock Dmax could, would and still will wax any of the 6.5s 6 ways to Sunday. Not even a contest, except for fuel mileage. And the bigger plus was you could actually reach your destination without putting a new PMD in it to get it to run!

ScottG wrote:

FlatBroke wrote:
I have found the sales department a lot more honest then those lying #$&@* in the service department

That was certainly true of Monroe Dodge where I bought my truck.

This is a 25 page thread of its own!
Love schister dealer stories!
Hey fwiw, knock on wood, I’ve had good luck with Tacoma Dodge parts and service dept. Have bought a couple significant parts there over the last few years and the parts guy was always knowledgeable and didn’t over charge me.
And just got some warranty work done there on the new car and they were very good to my wife and actually did it right.
At the same time, both Dodge dealers in Auburn were a **** show when my wife tried to get the car in there first.