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Mickeyfan0805
Jul 15, 2013Explorer
I think previous posters are correct - you are likely over-shooting your payload in these options. You are smart to look at the weakest link in the chain, and for a 1/2 ton SUV, that is usually payload.
Looking at that item only...I'm assuming the 1,422 came from the door. If so, that is likely the most accurate number (although it may not even bee 100% accurate). But, we'll go with it.
You are calculating 650 pounds of passenger weight and 100 pounds of gear. My guess is that your 100 pounds of gear is low (crates for the dogs, food and entertainment for the kids, tools, etc...). Also, your 650 of passenger weight will increase as the kids grow. Finally, neither of these include the 75 pounds or so that your WD hitch will add to the calculations. So, all in all, you are at a minimum of 825, and likely more, that you have to deduct from your payload.
That leaves you 597 pounds for tongue weight (we'll round off to 600 for ease). At 10% (probably too low, but we'll go with it figuring a 12% tongue weight with 15-20% of the weight redistributed back to the TT and away from the TV), that still only allows for a 6,000 pound trailer - fully loaded.
Also, remember that your a trailer will arrive, empty, anywhere from 200-400 pounds heavier than the 'dry weight' or 'UVW' listed in the pamphlets. So, if you are figuring on 1,000 pounds above the published weight, you are actually only figuring 600-800 pounds of your gear and liquids.
In the end, we are a family of 5 with 1 dog (fairly similar to your) and figured that an Expedition would limit us to under 5k dry - and that was planning to never travel with anything in the tanks. That's why we ended up with a 3/4 ton Suburban.
Good luck!
Looking at that item only...I'm assuming the 1,422 came from the door. If so, that is likely the most accurate number (although it may not even bee 100% accurate). But, we'll go with it.
You are calculating 650 pounds of passenger weight and 100 pounds of gear. My guess is that your 100 pounds of gear is low (crates for the dogs, food and entertainment for the kids, tools, etc...). Also, your 650 of passenger weight will increase as the kids grow. Finally, neither of these include the 75 pounds or so that your WD hitch will add to the calculations. So, all in all, you are at a minimum of 825, and likely more, that you have to deduct from your payload.
That leaves you 597 pounds for tongue weight (we'll round off to 600 for ease). At 10% (probably too low, but we'll go with it figuring a 12% tongue weight with 15-20% of the weight redistributed back to the TT and away from the TV), that still only allows for a 6,000 pound trailer - fully loaded.
Also, remember that your a trailer will arrive, empty, anywhere from 200-400 pounds heavier than the 'dry weight' or 'UVW' listed in the pamphlets. So, if you are figuring on 1,000 pounds above the published weight, you are actually only figuring 600-800 pounds of your gear and liquids.
In the end, we are a family of 5 with 1 dog (fairly similar to your) and figured that an Expedition would limit us to under 5k dry - and that was planning to never travel with anything in the tanks. That's why we ended up with a 3/4 ton Suburban.
Good luck!
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