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CraigJConrad
Explorer
May 21, 2015

Ceiling hooks to support hanging pantry?

I have a 2012 Forest River Flagstaff MAC 246D Pop-up. There are four hooks in the ceiling over the galley area. I think this is for an optional "hanging pantry" I've seen listed on Flagstaff specs. However, I've never been able to find where I could actually *buy* one. So, we bought a very nice hanging pantry online, but it hangs too low to be used above the cooking surface!

I would like to put new hooks into the ceiling over the cabinets to the left of the cooking surface, to support this pantry. Can hooks be safely installed in the ceiling without damaging anything? Can anyone recommend a particular hook? How much weight could they support? Can I install them myself, or should the dealer do it?

Thanks in advance for any pointers! ... Craig
  • I am/have always been dead set on not screwing/drilling anything into the ceiling/roof of my Sun Valley. Except for the CO detector, Ive been successful. BUT, when I first got the pup, I wanted to be able to hang shelves. Although pretty cool, Ive never wanted to do the shower/tension rod shelves mod that is popular. What I WAS going to do was use Collapsible Clothing Rods to hang Closet Organizers from, and use 3M Automotive Molding Tape to secure the rods to the roof. With proper surface prep, a few of 3M's tapes will NOT let go. I was, and am still confident it would have worked great, but due to the layout of my pup, and some luck, I was able to use what the Coleman factory had already installed.

    Using tarp clips on the door tracks and 24 inch(?) wire shelves, I did this.


    And using one of the AC braces, I threaded heavy duty zip ties between the brace and ceiling in order to make loops to hang from.


    And hung the organizers


    I also used clips that are hooks on other end to hang an organizer for light stuff from the curtain tracks


    Hope this helps a little. Im not sure of Forest River's typical pup hardware :@ You can see more pics, details and info here in my photo galleries.

    And I know Ive seen someone post a link to buy those stock pantries on the portal or pux. Ill look around and see if I can find it again.
  • Wow, I really appreciate the feedback, especially taking time to post photos! I think I'll take the advice of calling the manufacturer first. The liquid nails idea seems tenable, unless the manufacturer objects (they may do so just to cover themselves, of course). Maybe they can at least tell me where I can buy the "optional kitchen pantry" their literature talks about but no one knows how to get!

    See you on the road somewhere!
  • RoyB's avatar
    RoyB
    Explorer II
    The folding trailers don't use anything that weighs much in the roof ceiling that has to be cranked up to setup. My Startcraft 14RT POPUP ceiling is 1/4-inch plyboard first at the ceiling then about 1 to 2-inches of foam, then the roof which is fiberglass/vinyl type layer. It does have a few 1-inch wood cross members.

    You would really have to engineer something to be able to support anything heavy.

    You can contact your trailer manf and get the ceiling info. Be sure to have your VIN number handy.

    You can also pull down one of the ceiling lamp fixtures and get a pretty good idea how the ceiling is structured...

    I added a single ceiling light fixture over the sink area and accidentally drilled a small through the roof. Was only just a little over 1.5-inches thick in that area...

    I realized I drilled thru the roof as when I finished I saw a red dot on the trailer floor which was a small sun beam of light haha... Tell tale sign of a hole in the roof haha...

    I did find this google photo of someone rebuilding their trailer roof. I suspect my ceiling is much like this photo...



    When the dealer mounted my 13,500 BTU Air Conditioner on my POPUP roof they had to mount metal support CEILING BRACE sections as shown in this google photo. This photo only one installed but mine had a second AC CEILING BRACE installed on the other side of the heavy Air COnditioner.


    Roy Ken
  • We had hooks and handles that could be pulled down and used for hanging cloths on with a cloths hanger (factory installed) on our PUP we use to own. When our awning blew over the top and punched a hole in the roof, I found out the roof if nothing but foam board with a thin sheet of aluminum on the top and a plastic panel for the ceiling on the inside. No supports, no frames, nothing. Just foam board and two skins, one outside and one inside.

    But the hooks and hangers were not installed when we get the new roof. So I installed them myself. The dealer sold them, easy enough, and they were supported by 4 simple screws (for the hangers) and a single screw for the hooks. BUT! They came with that super strong double backed sticky tape. Between the tape and the screws the panel would rip off before the hook fell off. I ended up using Liquid Nails (the old stuff, not the new fangled stuff they make now a-days) and with a spot of Liquid Nails and the screw to hold it in place till the Liquid Nails set up and hardened and boneed, those suckers could support almost anything. We never were excessive with them supporting wight, but they were great for hanging clothes on.

    Not sure how your's is made but even if it had any kind of support fram structure in the roof, it would be hard to hit with a screw.

    You always have the option to drill a hole completely through the roof and bolt it with a washer and nut on the outside. Weather proof the spot where the bolt comes through, but then the hook would support anything, as long as it wasn't too much weight for the camper lift system.
  • You would have to know how the ceiling was constructed to answer that question. I would take with the manufacturer. Do you have aluminum or wood ceiling trusses? You definitely would have to find a framing member for sure. They should be on center from the other hooks in the ceiling. JMHO