After reading about all the horror stories about how hard and messy changing the oil on a 13 and newer 6.7 Cummins was I used all the info I gleaned from everyone and changed oil today for the first time at 2,900 miles on my 15 RAM Dually. Last night I looked over the conditions and came up with a game plan.First I placed a milk bucket under the drain pan and used a 1/2" ratchet with a 1/2 to 3/8 reducer. Makes it easy to break loose the drain plug. I wore a glove on my left hand and spun the drain plug loose and removed it allowing the oil to drain into the bucket. NO MESS AT ALL!This is the trick! Remove the bolt in the pic with a 10MM socket.I sprayed AMZ/OIL MP to help loosen the hose then I slid back the clamp and easily slid off the hose.Then I loosened the intake tube at each end with a 5/16 socket and removed the tube. Now the oil filter is easily accessible. I removed the filter with a large jaw type filter wrench. Yes the Cummins "GORILLA" was working that day the engine was assembled!I reached thru the fender and slipped the freezer bag over the filter, from above I spun off the filter and lifted it up with out spilling a drop.Then I filled the filter installed from above and re installed the air intake.Pic of tools used.

Did you instal the Geno's quick drain valve for next time?

rjxj wrote:Did you instal the Geno's quick drain valve for next time?No, I don't believe in them. For one they cost a few bucks that would be better spent buying a case of Stella. And I just don't trust people!To me the drain plug that comes on the Cummins is a good one and reusable.

Don't forget to rinse the bucket. It will make the milk taste funny. :)

gbopp wrote:Don't forget to rinse the bucket. It will make the milk taste funny. :)I will remember my Father in law every time I use it. He was a Dairy farmer for many years. It's the perfect size the oil comes to within about 2" of the top. It just slides under the frame. Next time I will try it without the 2X under it. A cut down 5 gallon bucket work well also.

Pretty much how I changed the filter on my 02 Cummins/Dodge when I owned it. Good job doing the oil/filter change, and showing how to do it correctly!Rich

"EASY" Cummins 6.7 2013+ oil change! | Good Sam Community

goducks10
Explorer
Jul 02, 2015
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
estesbubba wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
You know that there are some people on here that will argue that it is easier to change a tire on their tow vehicle because there is a better design on the (insert brand here) lugs.

You will never convince the troller that anything, especially RAM is on par with a beloved Blue Oval, so why try?

Exactly. I recently went to a diesel clinic at my dealer that has a top 3 Ram dealer in the nation, a #1 Ford truck dealer in the nation, plus a Chevy dealer. After the presentation and questions we all went into the shop and they had diesels from each where people could ask questions. Looking at them all side-by-side:

- The Ram had the most room to work under the hood
- The Chevy was a little more crowed
- The Ford was a freakin' cluster-f...

Of course someone on here has a cousin who's ex-wife's ex-husband knows a guy who works on diesels and said that Ford has the most room.

Ford DOES have the most room!! Once you remove the cab!

BAM!!!!!!!

I sorta illuded to that earlier.

BAM!!!!!!! Did I post the wrong brand. :B

Nothing like a photo shopped pic.
cummins2014
Explorer
Jul 02, 2015
Cummins12V98 wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
estesbubba wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
You know that there are some people on here that will argue that it is easier to change a tire on their tow vehicle because there is a better design on the (insert brand here) lugs.

You will never convince the troller that anything, especially RAM is on par with a beloved Blue Oval, so why try?

Exactly. I recently went to a diesel clinic at my dealer that has a top 3 Ram dealer in the nation, a #1 Ford truck dealer in the nation, plus a Chevy dealer. After the presentation and questions we all went into the shop and they had diesels from each where people could ask questions. Looking at them all side-by-side:

- The Ram had the most room to work under the hood
- The Chevy was a little more crowed
- The Ford was a freakin' cluster-f...

Of course someone on here has a cousin who's ex-wife's ex-husband knows a guy who works on diesels and said that Ford has the most room.

Ford DOES have the most room!! Once you remove the cab!

BAM!!!!!!!

I sorta illuded to that earlier.

And over the lifetime of changing filters on a Ram you will probably spend as much time as removing the cab on a ford :B
FishOnOne
Nomad
Jul 02, 2015
Cummins12V98 wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
estesbubba wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
You know that there are some people on here that will argue that it is easier to change a tire on their tow vehicle because there is a better design on the (insert brand here) lugs.

You will never convince the troller that anything, especially RAM is on par with a beloved Blue Oval, so why try?

Exactly. I recently went to a diesel clinic at my dealer that has a top 3 Ram dealer in the nation, a #1 Ford truck dealer in the nation, plus a Chevy dealer. After the presentation and questions we all went into the shop and they had diesels from each where people could ask questions. Looking at them all side-by-side:

- The Ram had the most room to work under the hood
- The Chevy was a little more crowed
- The Ford was a freakin' cluster-f...

Of course someone on here has a cousin who's ex-wife's ex-husband knows a guy who works on diesels and said that Ford has the most room.

Ford DOES have the most room!! Once you remove the cab!

BAM!!!!!!!

I sorta illuded to that earlier.

BAM!!!!!!! Did I post the wrong brand. :B
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Jul 02, 2015
I was think about the process and the first thing to do is to loosen the two big hose clamps, "THEN" remove the 10MM bolt "THEN" slide back the spring clamp pull the steel pipe out of the hose, "THEN" pull the intake tube loose at each end lowering it down then the steel pipe will drop down and slide out past the hose in front of the pipe and pull assembly out.

Easy Cheesy!
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Jul 02, 2015
rhagfo wrote:
estesbubba wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
You know that there are some people on here that will argue that it is easier to change a tire on their tow vehicle because there is a better design on the (insert brand here) lugs.

You will never convince the troller that anything, especially RAM is on par with a beloved Blue Oval, so why try?

Exactly. I recently went to a diesel clinic at my dealer that has a top 3 Ram dealer in the nation, a #1 Ford truck dealer in the nation, plus a Chevy dealer. After the presentation and questions we all went into the shop and they had diesels from each where people could ask questions. Looking at them all side-by-side:

- The Ram had the most room to work under the hood
- The Chevy was a little more crowed
- The Ford was a freakin' cluster-f...

Of course someone on here has a cousin who's ex-wife's ex-husband knows a guy who works on diesels and said that Ford has the most room.

Ford DOES have the most room!! Once you remove the cab!

BAM!!!!!!!

I sorta illuded to that earlier.
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Jul 02, 2015
estesbubba wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
You know that there are some people on here that will argue that it is easier to change a tire on their tow vehicle because there is a better design on the (insert brand here) lugs.

You will never convince the troller that anything, especially RAM is on par with a beloved Blue Oval, so why try?

Exactly. I recently went to a diesel clinic at my dealer that has a top 3 Ram dealer in the nation, a #1 Ford truck dealer in the nation, plus a Chevy dealer. After the presentation and questions we all went into the shop and they had diesels from each where people could ask questions. Looking at them all side-by-side:

- The Ram had the most room to work under the hood
- The Chevy was a little more crowed
- The Ford was a freakin' cluster-f...

Of course someone on here has a cousin who's ex-wife's ex-husband knows a guy who works on diesels and said that Ford has the most room.

HAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
rhagfo
Explorer III
Jul 01, 2015
estesbubba wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
You know that there are some people on here that will argue that it is easier to change a tire on their tow vehicle because there is a better design on the (insert brand here) lugs.

You will never convince the troller that anything, especially RAM is on par with a beloved Blue Oval, so why try?

Exactly. I recently went to a diesel clinic at my dealer that has a top 3 Ram dealer in the nation, a #1 Ford truck dealer in the nation, plus a Chevy dealer. After the presentation and questions we all went into the shop and they had diesels from each where people could ask questions. Looking at them all side-by-side:

- The Ram had the most room to work under the hood
- The Chevy was a little more crowed
- The Ford was a freakin' cluster-f...

Of course someone on here has a cousin who's ex-wife's ex-husband knows a guy who works on diesels and said that Ford has the most room.

Ford DOES have the most room!! Once you remove the cab!
estesbubba
Explorer
Jul 01, 2015
Bionic Man wrote:
You know that there are some people on here that will argue that it is easier to change a tire on their tow vehicle because there is a better design on the (insert brand here) lugs.

You will never convince the troller that anything, especially RAM is on par with a beloved Blue Oval, so why try?

Exactly. I recently went to a diesel clinic at my dealer that has a top 3 Ram dealer in the nation, a #1 Ford truck dealer in the nation, plus a Chevy dealer. After the presentation and questions we all went into the shop and they had diesels from each where people could ask questions. Looking at them all side-by-side:

- The Ram had the most room to work under the hood
- The Chevy was a little more crowed
- The Ford was a freakin' cluster-f...

Of course someone on here has a cousin who's ex-wife's ex-husband knows a guy who works on diesels and said that Ford has the most room.
cummins2014
Explorer
Jul 01, 2015
Cummins12V98 wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
I had a 1994 Ford Ranger and when I didn't do the oil change Oil Can Henrys did. !98,000 latter and no issues. I never once changed the oil on our 03 Accord. 130,000 and no issues. I have been doing oil changes on my 12 Ram CTD up until the last few. If something happens to it that's what the warranty's for. As bad as everyone makes all dealers sound, some are decent. My 12 is known for oil dilution because of regens. So you end up with more fluid in the oil pan after x amount of miles. It calls for 12qts of oil. The common sense thing to do is put 11qts in so after 3-4-5000 miles you don't have an overfull oil pan because of dilution. The dealer I take mine to only puts 11qts in. Works for me.

He puts 11 quarts in because he pulls the drain plug and as soon as the flow stops the plug goes back in and only 11 quarts are needed. I let my 11 drain overnight and would add 11 5/8 quarts and it would be on the full mark. The pan/plug design does not allow for complete drainage.

Lots of people think they are making oil with fuel dilution but the fact is they are just overfull because 12 quarts have been added.

As said changed mine three times now. I allow it to drain until an occasional drip , thats until I have changed the pita oil filter. I fill the oil filter to about three quarters full, and install. I then add the remaining gallon, and another two gallons. Total of three gallons ,12 quarts. That puts it right on the full mark, no overfill whatsoever. Three times same way ,same results.

I'm going to allow it to drain overnight on the next oil change, I will drain until the occasional drip, and then put a different container under it ,and just see what amount actually drains overnight . Its hard to imagine it drips out another 5/8 of a quart . This is not something I would do again regardless of what drains out overnight, doing that is beyond anal , but going to do it out of curiosity . I have been changing oil in my cars ,and truck for nearly 50 years, and not once have I had the drain plug out of a vehicle for more then an hour. Thousands of oil changes done daily, and the common method is allowed to drain until the filter is changed.
cummins2014
Explorer
Jul 01, 2015
Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
This is turning into another example of how forums like this are by far the exception to what happens in mainstream America.

I would be willing to venture a guess that less than 10% of people change their own oil in their cars. And it is probably MUCH less than that. I am not sure I personally know anyone who changes their own oil. And unless I go on a Fish story, where a friend of an aquainatance of a neighbors dogsitters cousin, I have never heard of a true problem caused by an incompetent tech. I know they are out there, but they are far from rampant.

I have 4 vehicles plus a couple of boats in my "personal fleet" of vehicles. I change the oil in my fishing boat, but nothing else. The worst thing that has happend in having someone else change the oil is Grease Monkey didn't correctly reattach the air dam on my wife's 300 one time. Quick trip back to them, and it was fixed.

That is 25 plus years of driving, who knows how many cars.

More power to those that have the time and inclination to do their own oil changes. But having someone do the service for you is far from the riskiest thing you will do in the day.

My Daughter worked art Walmart changing tires and oil. She is a smart gal but the stories she told me about the Monkeys she worked with were amazing. I personally know someone that had their oil pan replaced by Walmart because they stripped the plug.

I like to know my vehicles inside and out. Get underneath it and look it over once in a while like when changing oil.

I agree 100%!

As a kid I worked on my own vehicles to save money, now I work on them as therapy! :)

I agree too. I actually enjoy changing the oil on our vehicles.

Note: Vehicles that require standard methods to perform an oil change that is.

Dude this is getting old! Do we need to start discussing what needs to be done to some trucks to have the engine worked on?

I proved it is not a big deal to do a oil change on a 13 and newer RAM using the method I described. It is something that can be done while the oil is draining or are you one that drops the oil then without it finishing draining the plug goes in and then the oil?

I guess I should do a YouTube video of how quick and easy it is to R&R the air intake.

But instead I will leave it to the RAM owners that do appreciate info that makes the oil change a easy task now.

Two hose clamps one bolt and a spring clamp, gee I should sell my POS before I have a breakdown worrying about my next oil change.

Ron, come on its not that easy of a task, no its not overly hard, but quit minimizing it, having to lean under that hood to make a simple filter change is not all that fun. It is what it is.