Fiat and Cummins in court

Amazon has a cap similar to the DEF cap that is an OEM part. I put it on my truck as I wasn't really a fan of no fuel cap. Cheap and works wonderfully.

If Cummins sets the specs, it doesn't matter who makes them as long as they are made to that spec.

FishOnOne wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Lol^. Great post!
Yeah not sure what Cummins has to do with it anyway. The emissions parts made by Fram. (Love it)
Pretty sure this has nothing to do with the stupid capless fill ports. Still one of the dumber ideas, IMO, but for those not in the know, they are talking about defective truck parts that are waaaay south of the fuel filler in the ole diesel digestive system.
Like saying whys yer poo brown after eating carrots? Cause something happened to the carrots in between! Still doesn't explain the asparagus phenomenon though!

I thought cummins also produces the exhaust system on these trucks. That's why fiat is expecting cummins to foot the bill. I would also expect the 3500 to be part of this issue as well as the article was poorly written.

Cummins makes SCR's and DPF? News to me. They might spec them out, but I never knew they made the actual parts?
Link me up Fish!

Grit dog wrote:
Lol^. Great post!
Yeah not sure what Cummins has to do with it anyway. The emissions parts made by Fram. (Love it)
Pretty sure this has nothing to do with the stupid capless fill ports. Still one of the dumber ideas, IMO, but for those not in the know, they are talking about defective truck parts that are waaaay south of the fuel filler in the ole diesel digestive system.
Like saying whys yer poo brown after eating carrots? Cause something happened to the carrots in between! Still doesn't explain the asparagus phenomenon though!

I thought cummins also produces the exhaust system on these trucks. That's why fiat is expecting cummins to foot the bill. I would also expect the 3500 to be part of this issue as well as the article was poorly written.

Cummins does make after treatment systems

Lol^. Great post!
Yeah not sure what Cummins has to do with it anyway. The emissions parts made by Fram. (Love it)
Pretty sure this has nothing to do with the stupid capless fill ports. Still one of the dumber ideas, IMO, but for those not in the know, they are talking about defective truck parts that are waaaay south of the fuel filler in the ole diesel digestive system.
Like saying whys yer poo brown after eating carrots? Cause something happened to the carrots in between! Still doesn't explain the asparagus phenomenon though!

If I were Cummins I would tell Fiat or Ram or Fram or whoever they are called now:

We are Cummins. We make engines, not pollution control equipment. What you put on the end of our engines to make spec is no concern of ours. Now go pound sand.

Sincerely Cummins

:B :B :B

Not much to ponder without hearing more about the cause of the issue.
"Moisture" in the scr comes from maybe 3 sources. Pre scr combustion gasses in a cold engine. DEF, or the byproduct of NOx breakdown is water again.
How that affects scr, I don't know.
Sounds like a big deal though.

Bumpyroad wrote:
I note that the article mentions moisture. I find it interesting that they don't/didn't on a 2016 or 15 use a gas/diesel cap on the fuel "port". have some funky rubber gasket like thing on the fuel door and once water gets past that it has free entry into the fuel tank.
bumpy

Me too. My '14 has the 'capless filler neck' and as soon as I saw that I didn't like it. THere is a gasket on the fuel door but big flipping deal. It's still too much a chance for moisture.

I went online and got a billet aluminum fuel cap with o-ring. I just didn't like the idea of that filler neck being open to the world, even if it did have a spring loaded door.

1 tons and 3/4 tons fall under different emissions standards. So the 3/4 ton may have the 1 ton programming in it. Probably how they got it past he Feds to begin with.