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vacuumbed wrote:
It's going to be a V6, like the one in the 1500 Ram.
Old news.larry barnhart wrote:
I guess Ford can use any name they want on the engine they built. I don't guess Ram could rename Cummins.Lynnmor wrote:
What is impressive is that a company can hang a meaningless word like “Powerstroke” on any Diesel engine and then have people repeat that word over and over.
Kinda like the hemi or triton or vortex. Folks are fooled so easy with names or numbers.
chevmantroubledwaters wrote:
Once you quit comparing trim levels and start comparing gas to diesel, like the thread has been about all along, then maybe you'll get it.
Read your own post $50,000.00 vs. $42,000.00 - your words not mine.
Check the title of the thread, it's about engines, not trim level.
Apples to Apples buddy, Apples to Apples.
I don't know how I can make this any simpler for you.
Trim levels are an options just like the type of engine, nav, type of seat, and so on. You can either get a low trim package option truck with a diesel for $50k or a high level trim package option gas truck for $50k. Both trucks have $50k worth of standard equipment and options. It just depends on which option is more important to you that fits within your budget. Not sure how to make that any simpler.
Most people shop this way. They have a set amount that they are willing spend on a truck and take out or keep the options depending on how important they are to them. For some, having a the optional higher power engine is more important then having interior amenities. Others are willing to sacrifice engine power for a more luxurious cabin or trim level.
There are also people on both sides of the spectrum that either have a budget too low to buy a new truck and have to buy used to fit within what they are willing to spend or those that have a high enough budget to buy all the options that want. Point being, most people buy depending on a certain budget amount they are willing to spend, not by trim levels.
Also, I used $50k versus $42k to point out to the person I was quoting that even if you do calculate the $8k option for the diesel, it still comes out ahead. Use it out of context if you want, I don't care.troubledwaters wrote:
kirkl wrote:
Show me the declaration page from each policy.troubledwaters wrote:
So you're spending more for fuel, spending more for the engine, spending more for insurance, losing out on the interest by keeping your money invested, and think you're going to make that all up by getting 4 more mpg.
I Got to get some of that stuff you're smoking.
My insurance on my brand new 2017 ram 2500 tradesman 6.4 hemi was exactly the same as my now brand new 2017 ram 2500 tradesman cummins, exact same truck just different motors.
Oh jesus, you look it up. Call state farm and get it. thats who i go through. If your gonna through out info you prove that a diesel is more.kirkl wrote:
Show me the declaration page from each policy.troubledwaters wrote:
So you're spending more for fuel, spending more for the engine, spending more for insurance, losing out on the interest by keeping your money invested, and think you're going to make that all up by getting 4 more mpg.
I Got to get some of that stuff you're smoking.
My insurance on my brand new 2017 ram 2500 tradesman 6.4 hemi was exactly the same as my now brand new 2017 ram 2500 tradesman cummins, exact same truck just different motors.troubledwaters wrote:
So you're spending more for fuel, spending more for the engine, spending more for insurance, losing out on the interest by keeping your money invested, and think you're going to make that all up by getting 4 more mpg.
I Got to get some of that stuff you're smoking.
My insurance on my brand new 2017 ram 2500 tradesman 6.4 hemi was exactly the same as my now brand new 2017 ram 2500 tradesman cummins, exact same truck just different motors.ShinerBock wrote:
Once you quit comparing trim levels and start comparing gas to diesel, like the thread has been about all along, then maybe you'll get it.troubledwaters wrote:
So you're spending more for fuel, spending more for the engine, spending more for insurance, losing out on the interest by keeping your money invested, and think you're going to make that all up by getting 4 more mpg.
I Got to get some of that stuff you're smoking.
I think you already smoked it if you think he is loosing money versus a truck that cost the same(if not more). How is he loosing money on interest in his lower trim optioned diesel truck versus a higher trim optioned gas truck that costs the same? Please explain that to me...
A 2500 Tradesman 4x4 Cummins costs $47k which is just as much as a 2500 Laramie 4x4 6.4L. Just pick which option is more important to you, pulling power or butt heaters and fancy radio.
Read your own post $50,000.00 vs. $42,000.00 - your words not mine.
Check the title of the thread, it's about engines, not trim level.
Apples to Apples buddy, Apples to Apples.
I don't know how I can make this any simpler for you.Bionic Man wrote:
Maybe a little less so since the 4x4 MPG of 25 isn't as good as I expected it would.
I agree, and 5 mpg seems like a really big hit for 4wd on the highway figure versus the 30 mpg highway on 2wd models.- So much in depth analytics on why this is a bad option for most. I would be willing to bet it is a very small percentage of people who look at any purchase, let alone a truck, that way.
People buy cars largely on emotion. So how the engine feels to drive is very important, and diesels perform well by seat of the pants feel.
They also pay attention to what they are paying at the pump, and how often they fill up. You fill up the tank less often with a diesel, but right now, you would pay more per gallon. Might stay that way for a while.
I still think this truck will be successful. Maybe a little less so since the 4x4 MPG of 25 isn't as good as I expected it would. troubledwaters wrote:
So you're spending more for fuel, spending more for the engine, spending more for insurance, losing out on the interest by keeping your money invested, and think you're going to make that all up by getting 4 more mpg.
I Got to get some of that stuff you're smoking.
I think you already smoked it if you think he is loosing money versus a truck that cost the same(if not more). How is he loosing money on interest in his lower trim optioned diesel truck versus a higher trim optioned gas truck that costs the same? Please explain that to me... :h
A 2500 Tradesman 4x4 Cummins costs $47k which is just as much as a 2500 Laramie 4x4 6.4L. Just pick which option is more important to you, pulling power or butt heaters and fancy radio.
