IdaD wrote:45Ricochet wrote:majorgator wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:majorgator wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:
About 12 to 15 grand depending on dealer, area and if they follow Fords exact procedure to do the job.
Why so much? Not debating, just asking why out of curiosity.
When you say "fouled the injectors", are you saying they're trashed, burned up, whatever? I've just heard of anyone using that term for diesel injectors.
In my mind, replacing injectors and fuel pump should never warrant that much money, but then again, I turn my own wrenches.
Parts are very expensive for this motor. As was said, if you do the job according to Ford; the whole fuel system has to be replaced from the tank forward. I believe Ford used to say to even replace the tank. I think they say it's ok to clean it now.
Prices very A LOT on this job depending on how it's done. Some pull the cab, some don't. Some clean the tank and lines, some replace. Some use new pumps and injectors and some use rebuilt. No matter what, electronic injectors are VERY expensive and so are the pumps. When you have $125.00 + bucks and hour it can add up quickly. This is not a fun job to do.
When you have to replace the whole fuel system it gets expensive. The 6.4 is one of the most expensive diesel engines to work on and fix for many reasons. It is what it is.
Some reading about the 6.4 pump and it's problems.
A video about the 6.4 pump.
PS this is a Siemens pump and not the Bosch pump some are thinking about. The Siemens pump had a lot of failures too.
OK, I can accept that explanation ;-)
Until now, I was unaware of the total amount of work required to "do it right". As some may recall, I have an OBS 7.3 PSD which isn't nearly as complicated as the newer engines. However, I've recently upgraded to a RAM 6.7 Cummins, so there's a whole new level of learning that must now be done!
Your Cummins will have a CP.3 lower pressure pump on it. The 2011- forward Ford and GM have the higher pressure CP.4 pumps. I believe the early problems with them are now fixed.
There's a CP4.1 and a CP4.2, and supposedly the .2 version is improved, but I don't know if it's as reliable as the CP3. I really don't know a lot about the differences, but from my understanding the CP3 operates at lower pressure with more fuel volume and it's a more reliable unit overall. It was definitely a feature I thought was an advantage on the Cummins versus the other two diesels.
45Ricochet wrote:majorgator wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:majorgator wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:
About 12 to 15 grand depending on dealer, area and if they follow Fords exact procedure to do the job.
Why so much? Not debating, just asking why out of curiosity.
When you say "fouled the injectors", are you saying they're trashed, burned up, whatever? I've just heard of anyone using that term for diesel injectors.
In my mind, replacing injectors and fuel pump should never warrant that much money, but then again, I turn my own wrenches.
Parts are very expensive for this motor. As was said, if you do the job according to Ford; the whole fuel system has to be replaced from the tank forward. I believe Ford used to say to even replace the tank. I think they say it's ok to clean it now.
Prices very A LOT on this job depending on how it's done. Some pull the cab, some don't. Some clean the tank and lines, some replace. Some use new pumps and injectors and some use rebuilt. No matter what, electronic injectors are VERY expensive and so are the pumps. When you have $125.00 + bucks and hour it can add up quickly. This is not a fun job to do.
When you have to replace the whole fuel system it gets expensive. The 6.4 is one of the most expensive diesel engines to work on and fix for many reasons. It is what it is.
Some reading about the 6.4 pump and it's problems.
A video about the 6.4 pump.
PS this is a Siemens pump and not the Bosch pump some are thinking about. The Siemens pump had a lot of failures too.
OK, I can accept that explanation ;-)
Until now, I was unaware of the total amount of work required to "do it right". As some may recall, I have an OBS 7.3 PSD which isn't nearly as complicated as the newer engines. However, I've recently upgraded to a RAM 6.7 Cummins, so there's a whole new level of learning that must now be done!
Your Cummins will have a CP.3 lower pressure pump on it. The 2011- forward Ford and GM have the higher pressure CP.4 pumps. I believe the early problems with them are now fixed.
majorgator wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:majorgator wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:
About 12 to 15 grand depending on dealer, area and if they follow Fords exact procedure to do the job.
Why so much? Not debating, just asking why out of curiosity.
When you say "fouled the injectors", are you saying they're trashed, burned up, whatever? I've just heard of anyone using that term for diesel injectors.
In my mind, replacing injectors and fuel pump should never warrant that much money, but then again, I turn my own wrenches.
Parts are very expensive for this motor. As was said, if you do the job according to Ford; the whole fuel system has to be replaced from the tank forward. I believe Ford used to say to even replace the tank. I think they say it's ok to clean it now.
Prices very A LOT on this job depending on how it's done. Some pull the cab, some don't. Some clean the tank and lines, some replace. Some use new pumps and injectors and some use rebuilt. No matter what, electronic injectors are VERY expensive and so are the pumps. When you have $125.00 + bucks and hour it can add up quickly. This is not a fun job to do.
When you have to replace the whole fuel system it gets expensive. The 6.4 is one of the most expensive diesel engines to work on and fix for many reasons. It is what it is.
Some reading about the 6.4 pump and it's problems.
A video about the 6.4 pump.
PS this is a Siemens pump and not the Bosch pump some are thinking about. The Siemens pump had a lot of failures too.
OK, I can accept that explanation ;-)
Until now, I was unaware of the total amount of work required to "do it right". As some may recall, I have an OBS 7.3 PSD which isn't nearly as complicated as the newer engines. However, I've recently upgraded to a RAM 6.7 Cummins, so there's a whole new level of learning that must now be done!
Turtle n Peeps wrote:majorgator wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:
About 12 to 15 grand depending on dealer, area and if they follow Fords exact procedure to do the job.
Why so much? Not debating, just asking why out of curiosity.
When you say "fouled the injectors", are you saying they're trashed, burned up, whatever? I've just heard of anyone using that term for diesel injectors.
In my mind, replacing injectors and fuel pump should never warrant that much money, but then again, I turn my own wrenches.
Parts are very expensive for this motor. As was said, if you do the job according to Ford; the whole fuel system has to be replaced from the tank forward. I believe Ford used to say to even replace the tank. I think they say it's ok to clean it now.
Prices very A LOT on this job depending on how it's done. Some pull the cab, some don't. Some clean the tank and lines, some replace. Some use new pumps and injectors and some use rebuilt. No matter what, electronic injectors are VERY expensive and so are the pumps. When you have $125.00 + bucks and hour it can add up quickly. This is not a fun job to do.
When you have to replace the whole fuel system it gets expensive. The 6.4 is one of the most expensive diesel engines to work on and fix for many reasons. It is what it is.
Some reading about the 6.4 pump and it's problems.
A video about the 6.4 pump.
PS this is a Siemens pump and not the Bosch pump some are thinking about. The Siemens pump had a lot of failures too.
majorgator wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:
About 12 to 15 grand depending on dealer, area and if they follow Fords exact procedure to do the job.
Why so much? Not debating, just asking why out of curiosity.
When you say "fouled the injectors", are you saying they're trashed, burned up, whatever? I've just heard of anyone using that term for diesel injectors.
In my mind, replacing injectors and fuel pump should never warrant that much money, but then again, I turn my own wrenches.
