Global Pickup Trucks Bragging Rights

Ford got the nod for the first replacement order because of its large payload capacity, he said. The truck can carry five adults and a ton of cargo, more than the French vehicles.

RobertRyan wrote:

Atlee wrote:
This truck is broken. The steering wheel is on the wrong side. :E

RobertRyan wrote:
Basic interior for entry level Ford Ranger. This one with a manual shift, full of hard plastics, probably tool delivery on a worksite

Like all manufacturers outside NA, Pickups and other vehicles are made LHD/RHD.
FCA make Jeeps RHD from their NAFTA factories and Toyota does the same for the Highlander

ShinerBock wrote:

brulaz wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

brulaz wrote:


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The F150 RegCab 144" wheelbase has a thicker frame when it comes with the HD Payload option. It also has a HD axle, wheels, stiffer suspension and LT tires.

The HP Payload F150s are designed and built to carry heavier loads than the non-HD payload F150s. And as I understand it, so are the world trucks. I suspect their low tow capacities are due to their low HP.

It is due to long bed configurations. The regular cab HD 144" with an 8 ft bed was the one that had a different frame from other long beds.
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No. The 144" Reg Cab with the HD Payload Option has a heavier frame, HD axle, suspension, wheels and tires compared to the non-HD 144" Reg Cab because it is designed to carry more payload, up to 3000#.

The LWB SCrew already has the HD frame, so the HD Payload option just adds a HD axle, suspension, wheels and tires.

It's obvious to me at least that these high payload trucks are designed and built differently than the normal F150s.

The link you provided provides all the information needed to see this.

Then how would that explain that the SuperCrew with a 6.5" uses the same frame in both HD and non HD packages? As far as the Supercabs, if you get an 8 ft bed then it automatically bumps it up to the HD packaged and frame.

I know the HD package adds more to the suspension as well, but Robert up there was only talking about frames when he said......

RobertRyan wrote:

No they are not the same, very different. The current F150 uses several frames, for different applications,

....which is why I told him his statement was incorrect about the frames. I don't see how you say he is correct there when he is obviously not?

And a max tow package that includes:
Upgraded rear bumper; Class IV trailer hitch receiver; 7-pin trailer wiring harness; Upgraded radiator; Auxiliary transmission oil cooler; Trailer brake controller; SelectShift transmission; Black manual telescoping trailer towpower, heated exterior mirrors with turn signals and puddle lamps

This is on the XLT Supercab. Basic package is $375, max package is $940 sticker, and it looks like the max package includes the basic one.

Looks like the 7 lug wheels and thicker frame is a part of the HD payload package.

Bedlam wrote:
My 5500 is 10,000 lbs empty and has 325 hp. It can carry 9000 lbs, tow 20,000 lbs or do a combination of both. At 20,000 lbs GCW, it has no problem maintaining 60 mph over I-90's Snoqualmie Pass. I have no doubt it will handle the upcoming trip over a pass just as steep and 1000' higher while towing an additional 1000 lbs. For me, this typical use and the global cut away vans or cab over engine trucks pictured would to keep pace with traffic.

Although I have only spent one month in Australia between Adeliade and Sydney, over the years I have driven most of Europe between Paris, Stockholm, Prague and Dubrovnik. Even with all the crazy government controls in Europe, I saw plenty of overloaded and underpowered vehicles hauling and towing that would not be allowed in the U.S. or Canada. They have much more speed reductions for these burdened vehicles because they just wouldn't be safe beyond their 80 or 100 kph restrictions. I know Australia doesn't have as many speed restrictions as Europe but it also doesn't have the elevation changes or population density that would cause havoc for the vehicle or the people around it.

Shiner Box wrote:
which is why I told him his statement was incorrect about the frames. I don't see how you say he is correct there when he is obviously no

Powerdude wrote:
I take everything with a grain of salt.

I find it hard to believe that a global car company these days would be stupid enough to have different designs, and different frames for different parts of the world.

Yeah, they might change spring packs and wheels using local suppliers, but it would be in their financial best interest to save costs, and use a common frame design.

Toyota does have a different frame for the US based Tacoma. It is not a HiLux. Considering they sell 600k+ global HiLuxes, and only about 160k Tacoma's in the USA, I keep wondering how they could afford that, personally. It seems stupid.

The only reason Ford hasn't brought the global Ranger to the USA is because they are scared it would eat into F150 sales, and they will lose their "best selling truck for XX years" -self appointed crown.

As for Ford, the heavy duty payload package doesn't say anything about a different frame for the F150. I don't see Ford designing and producing a totally different chassis for a package that is only a small part of their market. There is no way an executive these days would approve that.

Each truck has its pluses and minuses, just be glad you have a choices, and it isn't a white Lada or a black Lada.

See below, nothing about an upgraded frame at all (copied from HERE).

F-150 Heavy-Duty Payload
Package (Option Code 627)
Increases GVWR to 7,600 lbs. on XL and
7,850 lbs. on XLT and Lariat.
– 17" silver steel heavy-duty wheels (XL)
–18" silver aluminum heavy-duty wheels (XLT/Lariat)
Upgraded springs and auxiliary
transmission oil cooler
–9.75 "gear set with 3.73 electronic-locking
slip axle

hone eagle wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

hone eagle wrote:
You go on and on with these monstrous payloads ,what about the H.P ? or to be more accurate what is the H.P. to weight ratio.
Let me guess , at anywhere near the claimed loading I bet they couldn't make it to the top of any of the major passes in N.A.
Like I said pathetic performance

Do not know what your talking about, they carry these payloads over the Alps in Europe Suggest you travel outside NA

Born in Germany,and we have been over this, in N.A. they go over the mountains at 70 mph, in europe they go through at 54 mph(if they are lucky)
answer the question
-horsepower to weight ?

Articles - Metalforming Technology at the Core of the New F-150 ...
www.metalformingmagazine.com › magazine › 2015 › april 2015
Apr 1, 2015 - The aluminum-intensive 2015 Ford F-150 has been in the making for .... “There are more than 20 different frame variations for the new F-150,” ...

brulaz wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

No they are not the same, very different. The current F150 uses several frames, for different applications, Global Pickups are built to take vastly more punishment than any U.S Pickup could imagine
Before the Colorado 71/ Shiner Box start their UAW sponsored Trolling, I would very much agree, that the capabilities of these " Global Pickups" is very impressive

Robert, that is completely and utterly false. The F150 does NOT have several different frames for different applications. The different frame sizes are for different truck configurations and wheel bases like how the global trucks have different frame lengths for different configurations. Check for yourself on page 11 2014 F150 Technical Specifications

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The F150 RegCab 144" wheelbase has a thicker frame when it comes with the HD Payload option. It also has a HD axle, wheels, stiffer suspension and LT tires.

The HP Payload F150s are designed and built to carry heavier loads than the non-HD payload F150s. And as I understand it, so are the world trucks. I suspect their low tow capacities are due to their low HP.

Brulaz he is true Troll who sprukes Garbage most of the time.