Global Pickup Trucks Bragging Rights

RobertRyan wrote:

Denvermike, go back to TTAC and post your UAW PR. Virtually all your stuff, is a distortion. Or a total lie, that is what you are paid to do.Like I said change your writing style and your Alias's will not be found out
Maybe I should invite your adversary on TTAC here

Denvermike? Who the hell is Denvermike? I was born, raised, and live in Texas where we hate unions, so why would I have a name of "Denver" or do PR for the UAW?

If what I am saying is a lie, then why does the evidence I post say otherwise? I think you need to take a chill pill Robert. Yes, I am debating you and I do not like you posting false information, but that does not mean I hate you or anyone else here to call them names or make false accusations about them.

blt2ski wrote:
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Man are some of you being whiny snivelly snots!

Who cares where the rig is from. If it works for someone, then it is a good rig. If not for you, oh well, find the one that works for you! I'd personally love a ranger sized or mid sized rig with 3000 lbs of payload! I remember my 76 toyota could out haul most of the 15 series GM, fords and dodge full size trucks by 500 lbs or so! Speed wise not, but hauling wise, no problemo!

The US is but 1/10 or 20th of the overall world market! Hence why some rigs are for here and here only!

marty

Very good Marty, yes the Pickups in the U.S. are built for the U.S., not overseas markets
Anyway I would hate this thread to denigrate into a circular reasoning trolling session.
Hopefully others could contribute as well to keep the thread interesting. Although one party has vested interests to shut it down

ShinerBock wrote:

gmw photos wrote:

Me personally, I am glad that Robert from Australia hangs out here. I enjoy seeing his posts showing us trucks and campers from that place that hangs upside down. Keep posting Robert.

I don't mind Robert posting here either. Just as long as it is with factual information and not trying to say that American vehicles are weak like he has done multiple times in this thread.

Denvermike, go back to TTAC and post your UAW PR. Virtually all your stuff, is a distortion. Or a total lie, that is what you are paid to do.Like I said change your writing style and your Alias's will not be found out
Maybe I should invite your adversary on TTAC here

blt2ski wrote:

Who cares where the rig is from. If it works for someone, then it is a good rig. If not for you, oh well, find the one that works for you! I'd personally love a ranger sized or mid sized rig with 3000 lbs of payload! I remember my 76 toyota could out haul most of the 15 series GM, fords and dodge full size trucks by 500 lbs or so! Speed wise not, but hauling wise, no problemo!

The US is but 1/10 or 20th of the overall world market! Hence why some rigs are for here and here only!

marty

Sadly, due to regulations in the US the only way we would be able to have a mid size truck that has a 3,000 lbs payload was if it had a curb weight of 3,000 lbs even if it had a "heavier duty" suspension and frame.

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Man are some of you being whiny snivelly snots!

Who cares where the rig is from. If it works for someone, then it is a good rig. If not for you, oh well, find the one that works for you! I'd personally love a ranger sized or mid sized rig with 3000 lbs of payload! I remember my 76 toyota could out haul most of the 15 series GM, fords and dodge full size trucks by 500 lbs or so! Speed wise not, but hauling wise, no problemo!

The US is but 1/10 or 20th of the overall world market! Hence why some rigs are for here and here only!

marty

gmw photos wrote:

Me personally, I am glad that Robert from Australia hangs out here. I enjoy seeing his posts showing us trucks and campers from that place that hangs upside down. Keep posting Robert.

I don't mind Robert posting here either. Just as long as it is with factual information and not trying to say that American vehicles are weak like he has done multiple times in this thread.

brulaz wrote:


My reference doesn't mention "LTV with an army package that is modified with a heavy duty suspension", perhaps you have some other info you would care to share?

Or is this just your usual bluster and B.S. ?

My usual BS? I have backed everything I stated with factual evidence. How can that be BS?

In this case, these are not "regular" Global Rangers and one would have to be a loon to think so. These are the same trucks that the US bought for Afghanistan....

"The LTVs are commercially acquired through an authorized dealer of Ford, Global Fleet Sales (GFS). GFS is responsible for the integration of 31 modifications to the vehicles, equipping the fleet to effectively fulfill their mission and operate in an austere environment. Some of the modifications include the addition of provisions to carry and store weapons, a heavy duty suspension package to increase mobility, and a robust vehicle collision protection package to improve winch and towing capabilities. The integration of an environmental package assures cold start operations in extremely low temperatures."
Army's Non-Standard Vehicles are driving the Afghanistan Drawdown


"GFS is a subsidiary of RMA Group and is the authorised distributor for Ford Motor Company products to relief, aid and developments programmes worldwide.
GFS is a specialist provider of automotive and other infrastructure solutions to clients in more than 30 emerging and post-conflict markets. For 25 years the company has distinguished itself in vehicle conversion - the design and manufacture of purpose-built vehicles that meet specific operational needs for all kinds of field conditions, for the most challenging project situations. From design through to manufacture and deployment, GFS is the single source for all your fleet and modified vehicle needs."
Global Fleet Sales - Light Tactical, Command and Rescue and Special-Purpose Vehicles

"The RMA Special Vehicles division offers pre-engineered special vehicle solutions for military or police tactical purposes. These vehicles can effectively answer fleet needs, or serve as the basis for custom-modified vehicles. In addition to the popular Ford Ranger LTV’s modified for the military, RMA Automotive offers a special, rugged, four-wheel drive Ford Everest model, which is available in Tactical Response and Command vehicle configurations."
Light Tactical Military, Police and Fleet Tactical Needs


So where is this BS you speak of?

Wow, this thread has gone a bit off the rail. I've tried to read thru it ( mostly looking at the pictures ). But to try to bring this all together and somewhat back on track, I'll say this, and offer one example to support my theory: unless we are insiders to the factory, we really do not know what changes are made for "the same" vehicle for different markets. So all we can do here is argue about it, and it really doesn't mean much.

Here is my example: I have a 2006 Nissan Frontier. Mine is a V6 gas engine, 4WD, with a manual six speed gearbox. Now then, the "very same" truck, if I would have bought it with a four cylinder, would have had a totally different five speed manual gearbox, and different differential as well. The four cyl model has a diff made in Japan, and my V6 has a USA made Dana/Spicer.

So that is just one example. Which one has a "stronger driveline" ? I am going to assume they spec'd a stronger driveline for my V6 model, and I base that assumption on the idea the V6 has a higher tow rating, and a more powerful engine.
But, I will admit, "I am guessing" that my six speed and Dana are stronger than the the other trans and diff.
Maybe they downrated the four banger model simply because of the smaller motor and smaller cooling system ?

Guessing. It's what defines much of whats on the internet.

Me personally, I am glad that Robert from Australia hangs out here. I enjoy seeing his posts showing us trucks and campers from that place that hangs upside down. Keep posting Robert.

ShinerBock wrote:

brulaz wrote:
FWIW
French Army is upgrading its fleet of off-road vehicles by buying a 1000 Ford Rangers (Global version) because:

Ford got the nod for the first replacement order because of its large payload capacity, he said. The truck can carry five adults and a ton of cargo, more than the French vehicles.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/06/business/international/french-army-is-buying-fleet-of-ford-pickup-trucks.html

What does a Ranger LTV with an army package that is modified with a heavy duty suspension have to with what we are talking about?

My reference doesn't mention "LTV with an army package that is modified with a heavy duty suspension", perhaps you have some other info you would care to share?

Or is this just your usual bluster and B.S. ?

brulaz wrote:
FWIW
French Army is upgrading its fleet of off-road vehicles by buying a 1000 Ford Rangers (Global version) because:

Ford got the nod for the first replacement order because of its large payload capacity, he said. The truck can carry five adults and a ton of cargo, more than the French vehicles.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/06/business/international/french-army-is-buying-fleet-of-ford-pickup-trucks.html

What does a Ranger LTV with an army package that is modified with a heavy duty suspension have to with what we are talking about?