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Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Smart move if you ask me. Not that it makes any difference to me but GM can leverage their advertising to this now.
Going to be interesting to see how the ED comes out of this. With only 240HP it's going to have a hard row to hoe IMHO. Time will tell. :)
Going to be interesting to see how the EB comes out of this. With 365HP and a relatively small cooling system it going to have a hard row to hoe IMHO. Time will tell. :)
To me it will be nice to see them all play by the same rules.
IMO the Ram ED is not in the same league as the higher HP trucks. Ram never intended it to be. It will smoke them in mpg tests though and that's what Ram wants.
I don't think GM will benefit at all from this if the current trend of lowering tow ratings continues. Ford already has the upper hand in tow offs. The tests done tow equal loads, so since GM lowered their to rating and Ford has to also then Ford will just smoke em at a lower tow rating. GM doesn't make a V8 that can keep up with the EB.Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Smart move if you ask me. Not that it makes any difference to me but GM can leverage their advertising to this now.
Going to be interesting to see how the ED comes out of this. With only 240HP it's going to have a hard row to hoe IMHO. Time will tell. :)
Going to be interesting to see how the EB comes out of this. With 365HP and a relatively small cooling system it going to have a hard row to hoe IMHO. Time will tell. :)
To me it will be nice to see them all play by the same rules.
The 'relatively small cooling system' and 365HP limitations didn't seem to be much of an achilles heal in this contest. Oh, and Davis Dam was the model for the cooling performance test of J2807.
Davis dam sprint- All truck manufacturers should be compliant, so shoppers could compare easier. Good for GM, now Ford & Ram need to follow suit.
- Indeed! I'm very curious about the others! Good for GM!
- what will other brands end up with?
chevman - GREAT !!!!
Finally getting off the 'curb'basis and using more real world (kinda sorta...who
weighs in at 150 lbs? and who has a trailer tongue of 10%)
Guess that 150 lb per person evens out a bit. I'm 180 and GF is 105, but
buddy is 312 and his wife 180
And options !!! guessing that 33% penetration has AC, automatic,
power doors, power seats, power windows and maybe a few more that
33% of the buyers order
• For light-duty full-size pickups (GVWR < 8,500 lbs.), SAE J2807 assumes
that the tow vehicle includes any options with higher than 33 percent
penetration;
• It assumes there is both a driver and passenger in the vehicle, each weighing
150 pounds;
• It assumes that tow vehicles also include up to 70 pounds of aftermarket
hitch equipment (where applicable); and
• For conventional trailer towing, SAE J2807 assumes that 10 percent of the
trailer weight is on the tongue - Well, not a huge change in the numbers; just a few hundred pounds on most of the trucks. So either they weren't as far off as everyone assumed, or there is plenty of wiggle room in the new standard.
- Smart move if you ask me. Not that it makes any difference to me but GM can leverage their advertising to this now.
Going to be interesting to see how the ED comes out of this. With only 240HP it's going to have a hard row to hoe IMHO. Time will tell. :)
Going to be interesting to see how the EB comes out of this. With 365HP and a relatively small cooling system it going to have a hard row to hoe IMHO. Time will tell. :)
To me it will be nice to see them all play by the same rules.
