hitch weight

For no more difference in price, have you looked at a 3500 SRW truck? But again, until one actually knows the GVW of the 5er...it's all a guessing game....If 10,000# dry, it may have a GVW of 12,000# or so, which I think would still be doable with a new 2500HD, but again, too many things left out.

boingram wrote:
denali 2500 crew 2wd srw has a payload of 3100...and fifth wheel tow rating of 17300

Not at the same time! Both numbers are max. The diesel weights at least 500 pounds more than the 6.0L gas engine, yet same GVWR. Comes right off payload.

2WD crew cab 3/4 ton Denali - 2500-ish pounds.

Anything placed in front of the trailer axles increases tongue/pin weight. Anything behind the axles decreases. Most 5th wheel floorplans I have seen have more storage in front of the axles than behind.

600 pounds over dry - good luck with that!

boingram wrote:
N . trouble. ..like the way u think....denali 2500 crew 2wd srw has a payload of 3100...and fifth wheel tow rating of 17300...looks like with a hitch wt of under 2000 and dry trlr of 10k i look ok...thx...bo

...question....if i add 600 of stuff in trailer...does that substantially affect hitch wt...

At first you stated dry weight of 8,000#, now a dry weight of 10,000#?? Which is it? Again, do yourself a favor and see what the 5er's GVWR is....I also recommended that you look at what your RAWR is...You don't have to use GVWR , but RAWR is very important to know.

Again, you initially stated, 8,000# dry, now 10,000# dry...What is the 5er's GVW? I would think if it's under 14,000# you should be ok. I towed a Coachmen Somerset with 3 slides that had a GVW of 14,000# (loaded to around 12,500)...pin weight was 2800#.....GVWR of the 03' Chevy 2500 back then was 9200#...I was well over the GVWR of the truck and a little under it's RAWR..can't remember numbers now, but shortly after went to my first dually....but that was back then....The 2500's have come a long way....but one really does need to know the GVW of their 5er...and believe me, one can easily load 1,000# into one of these things before you know it.

I'd like the way some think also if they agreed with me...I tend to err to the side of safety and again, would want to know my rear axle weight rating, (on drivers door sticker) and would want to know actual GVW of the 5er....dry weight is a joke.

If you add 600#, take 20% of that, ballpark number would add 120# to the hitch weight. If you add 1,000# to the 10,000# "so called" dry weight, you'd have 11,000# which could easily give a pin weight of 2200#....

Looking at the GMC website, a 2015 2500 Denali HD, crew cab, 6.6 diesel, standard box has a 9500 gvwr, and a max payload of 1759 lbs. Of course the website shows the same for the 6.0 gas. The Chevrolet site shows a 10000 lb gvwr and curb weight of 7100 lbs. Just shows that the more important document is the sticker in the door for the truck you're looking at if you are that concerned about weights. I wonder why the GMC is rated lower than the Silverado.

It all depends on where you get this 3000/3100 number from.

If it is off the yellow door sticker in the EXACT truck you want to buy, then it is legitimate.

Otherwise it is just advertising fluff. "Up to" and "when properly equipped" are certainly in the fine print.

Just be aware that things are never as simple as they seem. There are always "gotchas" lurking around the corner. All truck and RV dealers care about is getting you to sign over a bunch of your money. They don't care if you're happy or safe or compatible. Advertising numbers such as "1500lb dry pin weight" or "3100lb payload" are used to get you in the door.

That said you may or may not be perfectly happy with how things are even if you're a bit overloaded. The problem with that is it's a $100,000+ gamble whether you will or won't. When that much money is at stake doesn't it make sense to err on the side of caution?

boingram wrote:
N . trouble. ..like the way u think....denali 2500 crew 2wd srw has a payload of 3100...and fifth wheel tow rating of 17300...looks like with a hitch wt of under 2000 and dry trlr of 10k i look ok...thx...bo

...question....if i add 600 of stuff in trailer...does that substantially affect hitch wt...

boingram, see if these help you.

What Can I Tow?


And then this calculator gives you a realistic estimate of what pin weights will end up being:
http://www.towingplanner.com/Estimators/TonguePinWeightFromDry

boingram wrote:
N . trouble. ..like the way u think....denali 2500 crew 2wd srw has a payload of 3100...and fifth wheel tow rating of 17300...looks like with a hitch wt of under 2000 and dry trlr of 10k i look ok...thx...bo

...question....if i add 600 of stuff in trailer...does that substantially affect hitch wt...

If you are looking at published payloads, they are never accurate when it relates to the real world. That 3100 will be less when the truck comes off the assembly line.

My F250 gas has a 3200lb brochure payload. The door sticker is just over 2500lbs. That's 700lbs (Lariat) of options!!!

The dry RV hitch weight doesn't include propane and battery. Right there is about 100lbs mostly on your pin. Add 150lbs (reese slider) for a hitch in your truck bed. Your 600lbs of stuff could add as much as 100-200lbs to the pin weight. That add'l weight would be dependent on where it is located in the trailer.

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Dry weight does not include the weight of battery(s) or propane which will have an affect on pin weight.

Most folks find that they have loaded 1000# or more into their RV.

N . trouble. ..like the way u think....denali 2500 crew 2wd srw has a payload of 3100...and fifth wheel tow rating of 17300...looks like with a hitch wt of under 2000 and dry trlr of 10k i look ok...thx...bo

...question....if i add 600 of stuff in trailer...does that substantially affect hitch wt...

You should also include the weight of your hitch (200-250lbs) as it also eats up your payload. If were really talking about an 8Klb dry weight 5er then just hook the damn thing up and don't worry about it. You will have plenty of truck for that trailer...