Ike Gauntlet 2017 3500s DRW 22,800# load

Huntindog wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

patriotgrunt wrote:

Lessmore wrote:
Chevies have always been known for outstanding power...all starting back in 1955 with the introduction of the legendary small block Chevy V8. Power and lots of it...has been a bow tie tradition in both gas and diesel engines over the years.

So no....not at all...nope.... I'm not surprised that Chevy came first and Ford was at the tail end.

Some say horse power is horsepower....but in my humble opinion horses are rated differently....there are Shetland horses (blue oval) and then there are Clydesdale's (bow tie). :B

All I can say...is it is a good thing that the Chevy was 'hobbled' with 3.73's to the Ford's 4.10's....or could you imagine what the Chevy times would of been.

Remind my again why these trucks are only pulling 22,800#s? :B

That 30K spec is not a realistic number for Rvers.
A 30K 5ver will have approx. 7500# pin weight.
None of the trucks are capable of that.

Lots of guys hauling big car trailers. So the upper numbers do apply just not to the masses. If they could pass the SAE test with 30K in tow they sure would have!

Heck my RV is borderline with the GM's.

I just watched the video again..
I noticed that the RAMs payload is ONLY 5690#.
It could just barely handle the pin weight of your 5ver.... If you packed light and skipped lunch. :B

You seem to know a lot (compliment intended). But thinking My above comment you quoted was "SNIDE" is not how I meant it!!!

This is the way it is on most any truck out there especially the Class 3 trucks. The 14K is just a number to keep the trucks in non commercial category. They take that number and subtract the actual curb weight from 14K that is where the 5,690# you quoted comes from. BTW I am well over that number! So the REALITY when hauling a gooseneck or 5er is the payload is what the rear axle can carry ready to tow up to it's RAWR plus a 100# or so that is added to the front axle. If my truck were to be sitting curb weight ONLY and the rear pin was loaded to the RAWR of 9,750# and add that to my empty 5,200# +- front axle weight I am OVER my GVWR by about 1,000#. MY "payload" that I have on my truck that puts me at my RAWR and a few hundred pounds under my FAWR is around 7,000#. Dry truck 8,500# loaded Cat scales truck 15,500#.

Now my 23K has around 25+ percent pin it has two axles. Triple axle DRV's are closer to 20 percent pin. So a triple axle 43' DRV could easily load out to 26K+ and still be within my axle and combined ratings. If you take the towing weights they are advertising those are with gooseneck trailers having 15 percent pin.

So yes IMHO if GM could post SAE towing numbers in the 30K plus arena they sure would.