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- HuntindogExplorer
ramincr wrote:
Andre Smirnov
March 4, 2017 at 11:43 am
We did not detect any mechanical or software fault with the Super Duty. We did run the truck twice with similar results. We reported the best numbers
Did they give the other trucks two chances as well? If not, why not? - Me_AgainExplorer IIIOK we are fifty/fifty Ford vs RAM.
Cummins12V98 wrote:
" All three brands do it with much heavier loads than your 5th wheel."
Correct, I think I was saying that. From my experience the VAST majority of Car Haulers are doing go with RAM trucks.
I disagree....- Me_AgainExplorer III
Cummins12V98 wrote:
" All three brands do it with much heavier loads than your 5th wheel."
Correct, I think I was saying that. From my experience the VAST majority of Car Haulers are doing go with RAM trucks.
Cool: Blue Oval on the building and the vans. How did you stage that? Chris - Cummins12V98Explorer III" All three brands do it with much heavier loads than your 5th wheel."
Correct, I think I was saying that. From my experience the VAST majority of Car Haulers are doing go with RAM trucks. - Rich1961Explorer
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
patriotgrunt wrote:
That 30K spec is not a realistic number for Rvers.Lessmore wrote:
Chevies have always been known for outstanding power...all starting back in 1955 with the introduction of the legendary small block Chevy V8. Power and lots of it...has been a bow tie tradition in both gas and diesel engines over the years.
So no....not at all...nope.... I'm not surprised that Chevy came first and Ford was at the tail end.
Some say horse power is horsepower....but in my humble opinion horses are rated differently....there are Shetland horses (blue oval) and then there are Clydesdale's (bow tie). :B
All I can say...is it is a good thing that the Chevy was 'hobbled' with 3.73's to the Ford's 4.10's....or could you imagine what the Chevy times would of been.
Remind my again why these trucks are only pulling 22,800#s? :B
A 30K 5ver will have approx. 7500# pin weight.
None of the trucks are capable of that.
Lots of guys hauling big car trailers. So the upper numbers do apply just not to the masses. If they could pass the SAE test with 30K in tow they sure would have!
Heck my RV is borderline with the GM's.
Lot's of guys hauling the big car hauler trailers with all three brands, but I do see a big advantage in numbers to the Ram. I travel about once a month to the San Francisco Bay area, and go by the Benicia Bridge where there is a huge area where the ships and Railroad off load cars and trucks. The Duallys hauling these trailers have 45K weight stickers on the doors so they don't go by what the trucks factory GCWR is, they go by what they can legally haul and how much they want to register the trucks for. All three brands do it with much heavier loads than your 5th wheel.
Rich - Rich1961Explorer
4x4ord wrote:
CumminsDriver wrote:
I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but since the Chevy and Ford are very close power wise, and the results reflect that, maybe the Ram was just a very good performing truck which really surprised everyone?
Rich
If all three trucks were putting out their claimed power the Chev would come in about 30 seconds ahead of the Ford but the Ram would have been 2 and a half minutes behind the Ford. The new Duramax is claimed to have 150 lbft of torque and 48 more HP than the previous Duramax, yet it seems to be very comparable to the outgoing model. So it seams to me that both the Ford and GM were not performing anywhere close to where they should have.
Honestly with the Ford having 4.10's and a deeper geared transmission in the first 4 gears, I thought it would walk away from the other two, even with 5 less horsepower than the Chevy. It certainly showed better 0 - 60 times and the gearing was the reason why.
As for the new Duramax, I've seen videos of the it going up against the outgoing LML Duramax and it beats the older engine but not by as much as I thought it would.
The Ram/Cummins is just a solid great performer all around that gets the job done year after year. Regardless of what some think, they are great trucks like the other two. I've owned them, and would have one right now except the other half liked the GM seats better :).
Rich - Cummins12V98Explorer III
4x4ord wrote:
CumminsDriver wrote:
I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but since the Chevy and Ford are very close power wise, and the results reflect that, maybe the Ram was just a very good performing truck which really surprised everyone?
Rich
If all three trucks were putting out their claimed power the Chev would come in about 30 seconds ahead of the Ford but the Ram would have been 2 and a half minutes behind the Ford. The new Duramax is claimed to have 150 lbft of torque and 48 more HP than the previous Duramax, yet it seems to be very comparable to the outgoing model. So it seams to me that both the Ford and GM were not performing anywhere close to where they should have.
Just based on Dyno results on my 11 HO Dually and BD's 12 Ford my RAM has MUCH higher power to the rear wheels based on advertised HP. - Cummins12V98Explorer III
Huntindog wrote:
patriotgrunt wrote:
That 30K spec is not a realistic number for Rvers.Lessmore wrote:
Chevies have always been known for outstanding power...all starting back in 1955 with the introduction of the legendary small block Chevy V8. Power and lots of it...has been a bow tie tradition in both gas and diesel engines over the years.
So no....not at all...nope.... I'm not surprised that Chevy came first and Ford was at the tail end.
Some say horse power is horsepower....but in my humble opinion horses are rated differently....there are Shetland horses (blue oval) and then there are Clydesdale's (bow tie). :B
All I can say...is it is a good thing that the Chevy was 'hobbled' with 3.73's to the Ford's 4.10's....or could you imagine what the Chevy times would of been.
Remind my again why these trucks are only pulling 22,800#s? :B
A 30K 5ver will have approx. 7500# pin weight.
None of the trucks are capable of that.
Lots of guys hauling big car trailers. So the upper numbers do apply just not to the masses. If they could pass the SAE test with 30K in tow they sure would have!
Heck my RV is borderline with the GM's. - larry_barnhartExplorerFrom what I see the 6.6 is smaller than a 6.7. No bragg just a fact. Kidding of course.
chevman
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