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jj95
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Mar 30, 2014

Insurance denying claim for ripped floor

All,

I posted an earlier thread about how my vinyl floor ripped this winter, and heard from many of you on your similar experiences. I didn't want to file a claim with my insurance, so I started removing some of the vinyl floor myself. In the process, I found some water damage (the full width of the camper for the back 3' or less). I wasn't going to be comfortable repairing the water damage (and wasn't thrilled about redoing the floor anyway), so I decided to take it my dealer for a quote. While I was there, we walked through 3 other campers with identical damage. They have since had 3 more come in (and I suspect several more in the coming weeks).

The total job was ballpark $5000, so I decided to file a claim. Long story short, my insurance company (USAA) has decided that this damage isn't covered due to an exclusion clause for damage due to "wear and tear, freezing, and road tire wear", or something along those lines. They obviously honed in on the freezing word.

They even told me that all the insurance companies all use the same language - makes sense - its not like they are all writing their own unique policies. And when the big boys make tweaks to theirs, the little guys tend to follow - be it changing a word, adding a clause, etc. But of the 7 at my dealership right now with the same damage, only USAA is not covering it - American Family, State Farm, Allstate, etc - all likely have the same language, but either are not using it, have a different interpretation of it, etc.

It's an awful feeling. I have been with this company since 1991, and have a huge book of business with them since - 5 car loans, my RV loan, a home equity loan, college funds, all my insurance policies, and the only 2 credit cards I own. In that time, I've filed 2 claims with them - the last one was roughly 10yrs ago, and was for $2000ish. I will be moving every dime I have from them in the coming weeks/months, but I am curious - and I know there are others out there who have either faced the same issue or are right now - did your insurance cover it (if you went that route)?

Thoughts?

48 Replies

  • It sounds like someone in the appraiser's dept. has made a decision that the damage was caused by wear and tear and isn't covered under your exclusion. He's wrong but that doesn't help you in the immediate situation.

    What I don't understand is that if you have $600 of water damage, the remainder is $4400 for new flooring? That is a very big amount for replacing a vinyl floor.
  • Maybe this should fall under a recall by the maker if that many have the same identical issue?

    Factory defects are not covered by insurance I expect.
  • Insurance doesn't cover "deferred maintenance", just sudden and accidental loss. The fact that other identical units have had similar damage may justify a liability claim to the manufacturer, but has nothing to do with your insurance company.

    Incidentally, USAA is one of the top rated insurance companies.
  • They did reach out to my dealer (at my dealers request) - and spoke with the owner. He explained that in his 17 years in the business, he has never seen a claim for this denied. I spoke with him afterwards and he basically said that they really didn't listen or engage him much - they were just checking the box. They told me afterwards that they would like to talk to the other companies that are covering this, and reference specific claims - but I don't see that happening - that's just a "we want to look like we care about you" kind of maneuver.

    I believe they would have covered the water damage - but that was $600 - and I have a $1000 deductible.

    Last time I talked to them, their angle was that this tearing of the floor was a long slow process, due to repeated freezing and warming, and was thus "wear and tear" vs. a sudden event, like a tree falling through the roof.
  • All 4 are identical but the other three are different? Did they deny everything?
  • I would ask the service manager to talk to your insurance company since there are more units there with the same damage covered by other companies. He might be able to get them to cover yours since others are being covered by there insurance.
  • As far as I can tell, the only thing different was the insurance company. I literally walked in to two other campers and the situation was identical to mine. Mine had the added joy of water damage, but that was unrelated.
  • Is it possible that the damage in the other trailers was from a different cause than yours, only the symptoms seemed similar?

    I feel your pain, though. I moved my insurance to a different agent a few years ago. Was with the same agency for 25 years.