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- Cummins12V98Explorer IIILike I said for the weight, speed, aerodynamics of the load is good but nothing unusual.
Speed is a biggie!!! - Grit_dogNavigator II"He kept saying he was almost to his MAX weight??? 25,720# combined, I sure don't think so!
Kept saying how great the trans stayed in the gear it should be, but then it didn't and he couldn't understand what was wrong.
Says the RAM was horrible in 6th same road, what was he towing with 3.42's or 4.10's??? I tow at 60 in 6th at 1,750 a perfect rpm. 4th is 2,700 at 60 and 5th is somewhere i n the middle 2,200-2,300?
So here is a guy that is constantly saying the EB is not very good and the RAM holds great in any gear.
Something that annoys me is he seems to be a left lane HOG.
He said "10th is for over 70" then next thing he is in 10th at 55-60 and doesn't understand why. Trans on cruise set to 55 would drop to 45 before dropping a gear."
No offense to other truck drivers, but....he is a truck driver. You know what they say about when the door closes...Plus not everyone is mechanically saavy. Bet you don't see him posting any vids of how to rebuild a (fill in the blank), just how to "Almost get arrested."
Maybe that's why he's "almost" to HIS max weight. No Class A even though his combo is over the gcvw limit? Cummins12V98 wrote:
Put him in a 2020 RAM with the AISIN 6 speed and 4.10's. Now let's be honest what would he be saying on the same exact conditions?
Probably would say the same thing with the addition of worse fuel economy.- Cummins12V98Explorer IIIWatched the video. WOW, I sure wouldn't want someone to watch this video that you were trying to convince that's the best HotShot Truck to buy.
He kept saying he was almost to his MAX weight??? 25,720# combined, I sure don't think so!
Kept saying how great the trans stayed in the gear it should be, but then it didn't and he couldn't understand what was wrong.
Says the RAM was horrible in 6th same road, what was he towing with 3.42's or 4.10's??? I tow at 60 in 6th at 1,750 a perfect rpm. 4th is 2,700 at 60 and 5th is somewhere i n the middle 2,200-2,300?
So here is a guy that is constantly saying the EB is not very good and the RAM holds great in any gear.
Something that annoys me is he seems to be a left lane HOG.
He said "10th is for over 70" then next thing he is in 10th at 55-60 and doesn't understand why. Trans on cruise set to 55 would drop to 45 before dropping a gear.
Getting 11.4 towing a VERY low profile nicely covered trailer with a combined weight of 26k is NOT anything to brag about. It's right about where it should be with that type of load, road conditions and speed he was towing at.
Put him in a 2020 RAM with the AISIN 6 speed and 4.10's. Now let's be honest what would he be saying on the same exact conditions? - 2001400exExplorer
FishOnOne wrote:
ScottG wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
ScottG wrote:
They better danged well be considering some kind of upgrade to more gears or the market is going to pass them by.
While I agree that they need to update and get more gears, they did do better than the GM on the Ike.
It's not pulling hills that the extra gears help, it's cruising unloaded on the freeway where the extra gears result in lower RPM's.
Here's a hot shot driver sharing his experience with a new Ford 10 speed and it's benefits with pulling a load over three major passes and strong fuel economy performance.
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Very cool link, thanks for sharing. I drive that section of road towing a lot in the summer, 3-4 times a year. On the mpg, one thing to remember if 3 forks, where he started, is like 4,500 feet, and post falls is closer to 2,000 feet, so a net downhill. Also that load was not very wind resistant. That being said, for a 16,000 or so pound load, that's impressive. Weird on the tranny in cruise. I also felt it was hunting for gears a lot. I'll be curious to see how my Denali does this summer on the same stretch. ScottG wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
ScottG wrote:
They better danged well be considering some kind of upgrade to more gears or the market is going to pass them by.
While I agree that they need to update and get more gears, they did do better than the GM on the Ike.
It's not pulling hills that the extra gears help, it's cruising unloaded on the freeway where the extra gears result in lower RPM's.
Here's a hot shot driver sharing his experience with a new Ford 10 speed and it's benefits with pulling a load over three major passes and strong fuel economy performance.
Link- Cummins12V98Explorer IIIYes it would "almost" be the perfect combo. Add "Ford" to the Cummins and true Allison combo and there simply wouldn't be another class 3 HD truck sold.
Cummins12V98 wrote:
I am betting on this. Notice it has stop/start feature.
ATLANTA – Allison Transmission plans to release the first 9-speed fully automatic transmission in 2020, offering fuel savings and available to help meet the next round of greenhouse gas emissions standards.
At the North American Commercial Vehicle Show, company officials said the fully automatic transmission for medium- and heavy-duty vehicles will be available globally and is targeted for release in 2020.
The new 9-speed transmission has a deep first gear ratio, includes an integral engine stop-start system, and is scheduled to be released in time for the EPA's GHG Phase 2 emissions standards.
“This 9-speed product launch represents the first in a number of new products which will demonstrate Allison's ongoing commitment to addressing the global challenge of improved fuel efficiency and reduced greenhouse gases,” said Randy Kirk, senior vice president -product engineering and product teams. The new 9-speed will reach up to 7% greater fuel efficiency than the base 6-speed model, he added.
“Customers can also expect up to 10% greater fuel economy or more when compared to a competing transmission.”
The new transmission marks the first of its kind for the medium-duty market and is ideal for Classes 3-7, especially distribution trucks, rental and lease trucks, and buses, Kirk said. With the new transmission, drivers can also look forward to better comfort due to smaller steps, a smoother start, and improved acceleration, Allison says.
“Many OEMs in North America, Europe and Asia have expressed interest and excitement, with prototype evaluations beginning for them yet this year," Kirk said. “This is the first in a number of new products we’ll develop to meet the global challenge of increased fuel efficiency and reduced greenhouse gas emissions."
Wouldn’t that be something if Ram ended up using a real Allison transmission. The marketing adds towards GM branded Allison would be endless.- Cummins12V98Explorer IIII am betting on this. Notice it has stop/start feature.
ATLANTA – Allison Transmission plans to release the first 9-speed fully automatic transmission in 2020, offering fuel savings and available to help meet the next round of greenhouse gas emissions standards.
At the North American Commercial Vehicle Show, company officials said the fully automatic transmission for medium- and heavy-duty vehicles will be available globally and is targeted for release in 2020.
The new 9-speed transmission has a deep first gear ratio, includes an integral engine stop-start system, and is scheduled to be released in time for the EPA's GHG Phase 2 emissions standards.
“This 9-speed product launch represents the first in a number of new products which will demonstrate Allison's ongoing commitment to addressing the global challenge of improved fuel efficiency and reduced greenhouse gases,” said Randy Kirk, senior vice president -product engineering and product teams. The new 9-speed will reach up to 7% greater fuel efficiency than the base 6-speed model, he added.
“Customers can also expect up to 10% greater fuel economy or more when compared to a competing transmission.”
The new transmission marks the first of its kind for the medium-duty market and is ideal for Classes 3-7, especially distribution trucks, rental and lease trucks, and buses, Kirk said. With the new transmission, drivers can also look forward to better comfort due to smaller steps, a smoother start, and improved acceleration, Allison says.
“Many OEMs in North America, Europe and Asia have expressed interest and excitement, with prototype evaluations beginning for them yet this year," Kirk said. “This is the first in a number of new products we’ll develop to meet the global challenge of increased fuel efficiency and reduced greenhouse gas emissions." - NJRVerExplorer
2001400ex wrote:
NJRVer wrote:
2001400ex wrote:
Super slow 0-60.
You obviously don't have a 4:10 behind it.
In this test it was 3:42. Other tests I've seen are similar. Regardless of gear ratio, everyone says it drives like a semi unloaded. But drives great loaded.
https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2018/07/whats-the-best-one-ton-heavy-duty-truck-for-2018.html
I would challenge anyone to drive a HO Cummins/Aisin with a 4:10.
Get on it at a light.
Nothing slow about it.
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