Newbie towing question posting again

I mean as equipt with full propane tv and acc.Just no water or are supplys

Brox wrote:
I mean as equipt with full propane tv and acc.Just no water or are supplys

My dry weight trailer of 4370 lbs actually weighs 6006 lbs when loaded without water.

I suspect you are way-over weight on your Liberty

I started with a 2012 Acadia similar tow rating to your Liberty
Trailer Max Weight 5200 lbs
Tongue Weight max 600 lbs
GCWR 10,450 lbs
GVWR 6,459 lbs
Payload 1397 lbs

Therefore with my 6006 lb trailer with 750 lbs of tongue weight I would be way over already with a trailer similar to your trailers weight when dry.

If I fully load my Acadia with my family, cargo, fuel, and tongue weight (which is already over my hitch rating) then I would be at or exceed my GVWR of 6459 lbs. Assuming that I'm AT the GVWR of 6459 lbs then my allowable trailer weight would be limited to 3991 lbs. Since Gross combined Weight Rating GCWR is 10,450 lbs minus the loaded weight of the Acadia GVWR at 6,459 lbs equals 3991 lbs remaining for the trailer. So for me to tow my similar trailer (slightly heavier) with my Acadia (slightly higher rating then your Liberty) I am WAY over on payload, max trailer, max combined, max tongue.....

Just my .02 cents but the Liberty is unable to handle the weight and the Cherokee is too old to trust the original ratings.

I learned an expensive lesson when I purchased my TT, thought that 4370 lbs behind an SUV rated for 5200 lbs was a no brainer. I learned that I needed a pickup truck. My 1/2 ton Sierra is at the Limit for my current trailer and it is actually rated to handle 9500 lbs.

1995 Cherokee is a bad bet. Too many miles and probably not up to the task. If you are going to buy something more substantial, buy something more substantial, and newer. You really need a 1500 series p/u or larger SUV with a tow package. Remember who is traveling with you - your family. Don't try to chince on equipment and put them and you in danger.

I would stay with the newer Liberty, unless the 95 is well maintained to a point it was over maintained, or your libby is severely undermaintained.

I don't know the engine specs of either of those engines, but I'd suspect your 06 V6 probably has about the same power as the 95 5.2 V8...

So, since you've now towed it with the 06 and you said it did "great" why the interest in the 95?

Up those same hills, you'll probably still be pulling 4000 rpms going 50 mph with the 95.. Or at best, maybe 3500 rpms going 50mph.. ;)

I'd say that if you were satisfied with the initial tow, and in those kind of wind gusts, you are doing okay??

If your pants weren't 'soiled' after the tow, call it good and give it another try or two before you ditch the setup.. :)

Mitch

I would take your loaded tt to a scale and obtain accurate weights to see the real weights you are towing. From there I would trade the liberty and take the $1500 cash and trade it in on a newer used more capable tv that is still a decent daily driver. You are finding out what many of us have learned, dry weight and dry tongue weights are useless. Tv can't tow everything they are rated for. Consider a lower mileage suv like an armada or Tahoe or a 1500 level truck. I would skip the smaller suv class.

MitchF150 wrote:
I don't know the engine specs of either of those engines, but I'd suspect your 06 V6 probably has about the same power as the 95 5.2 V8...

So, since you've now towed it with the 06 and you said it did "great" why the interest in the 95?

Up those same hills, you'll probably still be pulling 4000 rpms going 50 mph with the 95.. Or at best, maybe 3500 rpms going 50mph.. ;)

I'd say that if you were satisfied with the initial tow, and in those kind of wind gusts, you are doing okay??

If your pants weren't 'soiled' after the tow, call it good and give it another try or two before you ditch the setup.. :)

Mitch

Just from reading all these threads on here seams like I need aomething more but as I said in my opion it did fine towing local just not sure about towing it anywhere else and dont really want another car payment since we just paid both vehicles off

Why have a trailer if you only travel local. They are made to travel and explore with.

Brox, you can listen to the masses here, which is very conservative, or your actual towing and performance expectations with your combo.. I got ripped a new one on several occasions when I mentioned my weights on my old 97 F150 towing a #5000 TT.. I was over the trucks GVWR, but not over the axle or tire ratings.. BFD.. ;)

I'll get ripped another one on just posting this, but I don't really care what they say... They don't know me or my truck or anything about the situation..

If you want a new (to you) tow vehicle.. Get one (I did)... Don't do it just because everyone says you need one when they don't know anything about the situation..

Just my opinion on the deal and do as you want.. I've told plenty of folks on here that they are going to be overweight or not like their towing experience... Not many come back and say they didn't have any issues, so there you go..

Good luck and enjoy your rig as you want to.. Not how someone else wants YOU to enjoy it.. ;)

Mitch

Can't let this thread end on that note. I'm not sure how someone new to towing can know what to expect, and then correctly diagnose the experience. Of course, do whatever you want, but since you came here looking for advice, don't stick your head in the sand because you didn't hear what you wanted. Learn how to do the math and objectively consider the results. If you need help, then please ask - lots of people will, that's why this forum exists. As I've stated in the past, budget should not override safety. Call me conservative if you want - but know that I could care less - especialy when I'm going down the road with my family.