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North Carolina Mountain Driving

Hey guys, we recently ran our camper (2003 Yukon xl, 1500 and approx. 6100 lb trailer) up to Burnsville NC. We got off at 226 because that is how the GPS took us and boy was it a surprise. 14% grade for 3 or 4 miles with switchbacks (found out after we made it to the top). 1st gear and about 25-30 miles per hour up it, foot was about 1/2 to 3/4 to the floor. Engine temp never moved though. Man that was fun. I don't know how we would have come down though.

We left the camper up there and are going to be bringing it to boone, has anyone ran the 19E to 181 to 221 to 105 route? How is it?

Also, when coming out of boone there is a 8% grade for about 4 miles, should I just gear down to 1st or second and use the trailer brake to slow me down? I've never done this in a camper before.

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We left the camper up there and are going to be bringing it to boone, has anyone ran the 19E to 181 to 221 to 105 route? How is it?

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North Carolina Mountain Driving","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:722781"},"body":"I drove up that 421 'hill' this past July and would estimate it at 9-10%. It is just as steep, or steeper than anything I drove in a recent month long Colorado trip.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"166","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-23T07:31:20.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-23T07:31:20.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":328},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:722757/message:722781","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:722780":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:722780","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:722780":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:371283"},"id":"message:722780","revisionNum":1,"uid":722780,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:722757"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:722757"},"subject":"Re: North Carolina Mountain Driving","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:722780"},"body":"A switchback is a term for a winding road up a mountain side, so tight that as you come around a corner you could be a foot from the trailer to the side of the mountain. you often hear people saying as you round the corner the driver can see the rear trailer lights. It is normally not just one but a bunch in a row to get up the side of a mountain. Go to googlemaps.com, do the satellite view and look up US 226 around the town of Little Switzerland, NC. you can zoom in and see exactly what they look like.

I don't know what the others are, but if I took diaper change diversion with face value, I have made more than my fair share with four kids.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-22T20:11:09.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-22T20:11:09.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":327},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:722757/message:722780","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:40":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:40","position":31,"name":"Explorer III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:164585":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:164585","uid":164585,"login":"CavemanCharlie","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-03-01T05:15:17.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:164585"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:722779":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:722779","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:722779":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:164585"},"id":"message:722779","revisionNum":1,"uid":722779,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:722757"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:722757"},"subject":"Re: North Carolina Mountain Driving","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:722779"},"body":"
PAThwacker wrote:
I wrecked last year on a diaper change diversion off an interstate. Secondary road, 50 mph, with valley lights. lost a restored 1998 Chevy k3500 crew casaw, 8ft bed srw, high top cap, 3k wort h of mountain bikes
ntani.
98



I've never been far from home and I live in the flatland central US.

First question: the original OP talked about Switchbacks, What is a Switchback?

Second question: what is a diaper change diversion? Also, what is valley lights?

Thank You.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-22T19:04:36.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-22T19:04:36.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":326},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:722757/message:722779","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:722778":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:722778","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:722778":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:371283"},"id":"message:722778","revisionNum":1,"uid":722778,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:722757"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:722757"},"subject":"Re: North Carolina Mountain Driving","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:722778"},"body":"Thanks guys, I do have the tow/haul and use it. I try to stay away from secondary roads but like terryallen said, it is tough to avoid to get to some campgrounds. I don't think a paper map even tells you the grades either. I studied the route on google maps really well or I had thought. I have confidence I could have made it down the 14% grade, in first gear going 10mph.

The grade on 421 out of boone is just west of north Wilkesboro and is pretty much straight down with no real curves. I have started gearing down the Yukon even without the trailer.

My wife and I did the grade on 19 in a 02 sentra and about half way down she asked me if her brakes were smoking and I said, no someone must be burning something, I didn't have the heart to tell her. Coming from Chicago I never knew how to gear down or when to do it. But now looking back we were dumb cause it is common sense.

I agree, I will try the start very conservately route then upshift when comfortable.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-22T18:54:17.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-22T18:54:17.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":326},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:722757/message:722778","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:40390":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:40390","uid":40390,"login":"NanciL","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-03-24T17:12:49.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:40390"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:722777":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:722777","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:722777":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:40390"},"id":"message:722777","revisionNum":1,"uid":722777,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:722757"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:722757"},"subject":"Re: North Carolina Mountain Driving","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:722777"},"body":"The way you went to Burnsville is basically the only way to go unless you want to take a long detour.
I live in Bakersville, in Mitchell County and have gone up and down Cox creek mountain, (226) pulling our 5000 pound trailer with my Ford F-150 quite a few times.
Coming up I just keep it in D-2 and I always can maintain 35 MPH. going down I put it in D-2 at the top, and then as soon as the RPM's go high, I touch the trailer brakes to slow it down. I usually only have to touch them at a few of the sharper curves.

Coming down when I am not towing, I keep it in D-2 and just tap the truck brakes a few times if I start to go too fast.

It just amazes me to see some of the locals who should know better coming down all the way with their brake lights on. When I am behind them I can smell their brakes when they are only half way down.

As much as we use our GPS, you still have to watch out. People who are coming to our house from Asheville are directed to take Mulberry Lane off 226. It is an old dirt one track logging road, that is gaited in several places.

Jack L

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ntani.
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Dtaylor wrote:
The wife and I were just looking at that area last night. I have been in the area you are talking about, but not towing. I have towed to Maggie Valley and that area. Last trip got behind someone towing a R-pod with a Yukon between Maggie Valley and Cherokee. By the time he made the bottom, his braked were flaming. Any traveling I do in the mountains I stay with interstate as much as possible and avoid the secondary roads.


But the good mountain CGs are no where near the interstates. It just takes patience, and know how to get to them. And yes. Going up is a lot easier than coming down. When in doubt. Use 1st gear.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-22T00:53:00.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-22T00:53:00.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":327},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:722757/message:722775","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:722774":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:722774","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:722774":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:187110"},"id":"message:722774","revisionNum":1,"uid":722774,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:722757"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:722757"},"subject":"Re: North Carolina Mountain Driving","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:722774"},"body":"BTW. We did the 221 to 3 mile RD, and down to 19. It's a long way around back to Toe River CG. 226 is way shorter. And taking your time. It's easy.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"147","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-21T18:11:39.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-21T18:11:39.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":327},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:722757/message:722774","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:722773":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:722773","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:722773":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:187110"},"id":"message:722773","revisionNum":1,"uid":722773,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:722757"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:722757"},"subject":"Re: North Carolina Mountain Driving","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:722773"},"body":"
NCMODELA wrote:
Hey guys, we recently ran our camper (2003 Yukon xl, 1500 and approx. 6100 lb trailer) up to Burnsville NC. We got off at 226 because that is how the GPS took us and boy was it a surprise. 14% grade for 3 or 4 miles with switchbacks (found out after we made it to the top). 1st gear and about 25-30 miles per hour up it, foot was about 1/2 to 3/4 to the floor. Engine temp never moved though. Man that was fun. I don't know how we would have come down though.

We left the camper up there and are going to be bringing it to boone, has anyone ran the 19E to 181 to 221 to 105 route? How is it?

Also, when coming out of boone there is a 8% grade for about 4 miles, should I just gear down to 1st or second and use the trailer brake to slow me down? I've never done this in a camper before.


Coming down 226 is not so bad. The speedlimit down is 15 MPH use 1st gear. I came down it towing our last TT with our current truck. No problems. Trick is to NOT ride the brakes. 1st gear takes care of that. Second part of the trick is to NOT let it get away in the first place. It's much easier to keep it under control, than to try to get it back.

As for taking it to Boone. Run 105 all the way in. A easy ride, No bad curves, no steep grades. 221 into Blowing Rock, on the other hand. Is very twisty.

Am curious about the 8% grade coming out of Boone? If you use 321 it is only 6%, for about 7 miles. The gears will hold you back fine. Ends up in Lenior, and then Hickory.

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