ram 3500 oil change

"BTW... cummins will be by soon to tell you how bad the DELO brand was in his cummins. I just finished running a load of DELO 10W30 and I'm sure it was fine."

I did not say it was BAD, I told what the inside of my timing cover looked like after the first 55K of the engine was ran on Delo 15-40. It had black streaks, I did not say it was bad. I did tell how spotless my dad's engine was at about 125K using AMZ/OIL from 6K on.

Hey Fish did you notice my poll on the RV haulers and HotShotters???????

FishOnOne wrote:
I just finished an oil change minutes ago with about 7k miles on the oil and the oil was coal black. I don't have to worry about the time since my truck gets driven on a daily basis.

Also changed the air filter with about ~32k miles on it.

Just a side note my last oil change was with Delo 10W30 to see if I could measure an improved fuel economy over the Shell Rotella 5W40 I've been using to date. What I found was there was no fuel economy change so I went back to the 5W40.

100 Percent normal for a diesel, you should know that!

rhagfo wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

bbaker2001 wrote:
so if Blackstone gives OK, does that mean you can go linger than 6 months. will you have to ship it to them each time, and what is the cost

The Chrysler guys said if I had oil analysis to back up the oil was good that going the full 15K will be fine with going over the 6mo. They said if you don't have any documentation and consistently go over 6 mo and have an oil related claim they most likely deny warranty.

I think the analysis and cost with the TBN result is around $27. They do recognize Blackstock as a reputable oil analyzer.

I did call them today and I will be taking the sample directly to them hopefully tomorrow.

So what condemnation levels on this Blackstone oil analysis do these FCA guys claim is acceptable (i.e. fuel percent, insolubles, TBN, flashpoint, soot, TAN, viscosity, etc...etc..)?

Bottom line if they don't back their condemnation levels in writing, then their statement is not even worth passing along heresay rumors and is downright irresponsible.

Blackstone tells you if your oil is suitable for continued use or not. They will tell you how much longer you should ben able to go if the oil still has life.

For those that don't know. When you send in a sample you tell them what engine you have, year, length of time or hours on oil, oil quantity added if any. Plus other info, the bottom line is it's a very engine specific analysis. They also want to know what oil and maybe filter used.

Blackstone will keep records and give great reports.


This is one of the first oil Changes on my 2001.



This is the most current on the 2001.

Yes those are good looking reports. In our Non DPF Power Strokes and Cummins trucks we run John Deere 50 Plus and change the oil once/year.

BTW... cummins will be by soon to tell you how bad the DELO brand was in his cummins. I just finished running a load of DELO 10W30 and I'm sure it was fine.

I just finished an oil change minutes ago with about 7k miles on the oil and the oil was coal black (which is typical). I don't have to worry about the time since my truck gets driven on a daily basis.

Also changed the air filter with about ~32k miles on it.

Just a side note my last oil change was with Delo 10W30 to see if I could measure an improved fuel economy over the Shell Rotella 5W40 I've been using to date. What I found was there was no fuel economy change so I went back to the 5W40.

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

bbaker2001 wrote:
so if Blackstone gives OK, does that mean you can go linger than 6 months. will you have to ship it to them each time, and what is the cost

The Chrysler guys said if I had oil analysis to back up the oil was good that going the full 15K will be fine with going over the 6mo. They said if you don't have any documentation and consistently go over 6 mo and have an oil related claim they most likely deny warranty.

I think the analysis and cost with the TBN result is around $27. They do recognize Blackstock as a reputable oil analyzer.

I did call them today and I will be taking the sample directly to them hopefully tomorrow.

So what condemnation levels on this Blackstone oil analysis do these FCA guys claim is acceptable (i.e. fuel percent, insolubles, TBN, flashpoint, soot, TAN, viscosity, etc...etc..)?

Bottom line if they don't back their condemnation levels in writing, then their statement is not even worth passing along heresay rumors and is downright irresponsible.

Blackstone tells you if your oil is suitable for continued use or not. They will tell you how much longer you should ben able to go if the oil still has life.

For those that don't know. When you send in a sample you tell them what engine you have, year, length of time or hours on oil, oil quantity added if any. Plus other info, the bottom line is it's a very engine specific analysis. They also want to know what oil and maybe filter used.

Blackstone will keep records and give great reports.


This is one of the first oil Changes on my 2001.



This is the most current on the 2001.

Cummins12V98 wrote:


Blackstone tells you if your oil is suitable for continued use or not. They will tell you how much longer you should ben able to go if the oil still has life.

For those that don't know. When you send in a sample you tell them what engine you have, year, length of time or hours on oil, oil quantity added if any. Plus other info, the bottom line is it's a very engine specific analysis. They also want to know what oil and maybe filter used.

And the other big thing is that they know what is normal for that specific manufacturers engine so you are getting results that are compared to similar engines. They do a tremendous number of oil analysis for a lot of fleet operations. They have a huge data base of information that is of great benefit to little guys like us.

minnow wrote:
The Blackstone report will advise as to what condition the oil is in, if the oil could be run longer and a very detailed report on all "ingredients" in the composition of the oil. A Blackstone analysis would be very strong and significant ally in any denied oil related warranty claim. One other important aspect of a Blackstone analysis is that they through the oil testing can look at unusual engine wear alerting to potential problems long before one would realize there was a problem sans the oil testing.

"Unusual engine wear alerting to potential problems long before one would realize there was a problem."

I'm curious about that statement, so you get back a report that says unusual engine wear, now what ? you tear the engine down before you throw a bearing or whatever , you drive it with caution ? You change the oil like its supposed to be in the first place ?

Obviously you will want to change the oil more often to hopefully prevent anymore unusual engine wear, beyond that not much. My point is why bother with oil analysis just change your oil like its stated in the owners manual, and forget the rest. If its a warranty issue then its sure not your problem other then loss of vehicle for repair. If its out of warranty I would still change the oil as stated in the manual, even more so .

I will save the money on oil analysis , and use it to change the oil, and let cards fall where they may.

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

bbaker2001 wrote:
so if Blackstone gives OK, does that mean you can go linger than 6 months. will you have to ship it to them each time, and what is the cost

The Chrysler guys said if I had oil analysis to back up the oil was good that going the full 15K will be fine with going over the 6mo. They said if you don't have any documentation and consistently go over 6 mo and have an oil related claim they most likely deny warranty.

I think the analysis and cost with the TBN result is around $27. They do recognize Blackstock as a reputable oil analyzer.

I did call them today and I will be taking the sample directly to them hopefully tomorrow.

So what condemnation levels on this Blackstone oil analysis do these FCA guys claim is acceptable (i.e. fuel percent, insolubles, TBN, flashpoint, soot, TAN, viscosity, etc...etc..)?

Bottom line if they don't back their condemnation levels in writing, then their statement is not even worth passing along heresay rumors and is downright irresponsible.

Blackstone tells you if your oil is suitable for continued use or not. They will tell you how much longer you should ben able to go if the oil still has life.

For those that don't know. When you send in a sample you tell them what engine you have, year, length of time or hours on oil, oil quantity added if any. Plus other info, the bottom line is it's a very engine specific analysis. They also want to know what oil and maybe filter used.

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

bbaker2001 wrote:
so if Blackstone gives OK, does that mean you can go linger than 6 months. will you have to ship it to them each time, and what is the cost

The Chrysler guys said if I had oil analysis to back up the oil was good that going the full 15K will be fine with going over the 6mo. They said if you don't have any documentation and consistently go over 6 mo and have an oil related claim they most likely deny warranty.

I think the analysis and cost with the TBN result is around $27. They do recognize Blackstock as a reputable oil analyzer.

I did call them today and I will be taking the sample directly to them hopefully tomorrow.

So what condemnation levels on this Blackstone oil analysis do these FCA guys claim is acceptable (i.e. fuel percent, insolubles, TBN, flashpoint, soot, TAN, viscosity, etc...etc..)?

Bottom line if they don't back their condemnation levels in writing, then their statement is not even worth passing along heresay rumors and is downright irresponsible.

For condemnation limits, you can pull that off of Cummins Quickserve with your engine serial number (Along with procedures on how to do most things to the diesel engine). Cummins has some general condemnation limits in regards to certain contaminants and TBN/Viscosity/fuel % etc...

The Blackstone report will advise as to what condition the oil is in, if the oil could be run longer and a very detailed report on all "ingredients" in the composition of the oil. A Blackstone analysis would be very strong and significant ally in any denied oil related warranty claim. One other important aspect of a Blackstone analysis is that they through the oil testing can look at unusual engine wear alerting to potential problems long before one would realize there was a problem sans the oil testing.